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Women's Advocates Counter My Column Criticizing Maine’s Adoption of Predominant Aggressor Doctrine in DV Arrests

August 20th, 2007 by Glenn Sacks, MA for Fathers & Families

My recent co-authored column, Maine’s Adoption of Predominant Aggressor Doctrine in DV Arrests Will Ensnare Innocent Men (Lewiston Sun Journal, 8/5/07), criticizes Maine's LD 1039, a domestic violence bill. Combining with other misguided laws and policies, the bill essentially makes a street cop responding to a 911 call the arbiter of child custody, and of whether the children involved will have their fathers in their futures or not. The bill was recently signed into law in Maine.

Gretchen Ziemer, legislative coordinator for the Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence (one of the organizations which pushed LD 1039), and John B. Rogers, director of the Maine Criminal Justice Academy, state the case in  favor of the bill in their column Identifying aggressors brings context to crises (Lewiston Sun Journal, 8/12/07). It's the second half of a point/counterpoint that the Sun Journal published on the issue. My column (linked above) was published the previous Sunday.

The Ziemer/Rogers column appears below, with my comments in italics inserted.

Identifying aggressors brings context to crises

Sunday, August 12, 2007

The complexities of domestic violence cases require policies to help police comprehend abuse situations.

The Maine Criminal Justice Academy, the Maine Department of Public Safety, the Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence and Rep. Deb Simpson, D-Auburn, united this past legislative session around LD 1309, a bill adopting police policies and education about proper "predominant aggressor" identification and enforcement.The International Association of Chiefs of Police defines predominant aggressor as "the person who poses the most serious ongoing threat," while realizing "an injury resulting from...self-defense is neither abuse nor a crime."

[The "person who poses the most serious ongoing threat" is code for "arrest the man." The man, because of his greater size, will almost always be perceived as being the "most serious ongoing threat." The idea that when women hit or abuse men, it's only (or usually) in self-defense has been discredited by research for many years. In reality, most men and women hit in self-defense in about equal numbers, and most blows by either gender are not struck in self-defense.]

Since 1984, mandatory arrest laws have been implemented to punish and deter domestic abuse. The complexity of domestic violence requires a judicial response that encourages police, judges, prosecutors, defense attorneys, bail commissioners, etc. to understand the context of domestic violence and examine each case individually.Criminalizing domestic violence with mandatory arrest laws started with the concept batterers wouldn't stop until the community thought of their actions as crimes. Activists also believed criminalization would stigmatize the batterer.

["Criminalizing domestic violence with mandatory arrest laws started with the concept batterers wouldn't stop until the community thought of their actions as crimes" is a big leap. Yes, it is true that having the community think of domestic violence as a "crime" does deter batterers, and this society-wide awareness is one of the many positive things the feminist movement did.

In previous eras, the attitude towards domestic violence tended to be more of the "it's between the two of you, keep it off the street" variety. However, there is a big difference between treating DV as a crime and mandatory arrest.

What mandatory arrest laws often do is create arrests where there has not been a crime. There's a 911 call, the officers are pressured to make an arrest, they're pressured to arrest men ("perps") not women. As a result, many, many innocent men have been thrown into the domestic violence system, and prosecuted because of "No drop" prosecution policies.]

As time passed, the Legislature enacted laws giving officers more arrest authority, victims more protection with bail conditions and protective orders and required police to have better domestic violence policies and training.

[The statement that laws have been "giving officers more arrest authority" is misleading--they've made it easier for officers to make arrests, but they've stripped officers of their authority and discretion to size up a DV situation and make an intelligent decision on it. Instead, hands tied, officers are often forced to arrest men in situations where it is very unclear that they engaged in any violence.]

Yet, according to the Maine Department of Public Safety, the crime of Domestic Assault, as reported to police, occurs every 96 minutes. (Maine Department of Public Safety, Uniform Crime Report, 2005.) Mandatory arrest was encouraged by most police agencies to help stop the crime, but not as the sole response to domestic violence. Mandatory arrest was meant to work with other means to end domestic violence.Mandatory arrest transformed the justice system response nationally, but with costs. It has led to increased dual arrests and female victims arrested for domestic violence. Numerous studies show the drastic increase in female arrests is not from an increase of women perpetrators, but from women protecting themselves.

[Fair arrest policies would result in far more women being arrested, not less, because now women are able to commit DV largely with impunity. The dominant aggressor doctrine (and LD 1039) shield women who abuse men or engage in mutual violence from being held legally accountable for their actions.]

To address these problems, many states adopted predominant aggressor language to contextualize domestic violence and recognize that acts of violence might be self-defense. By its volatile nature, domestic violence crimes are layered in power and control manipulations. Victims use complex strategies to reduce risks for themselves and their children. They are always considering myriad consequences when pursuing options for safety.

If the victim calls police, pursues a protective order or leaves the abuser, it may curtail immediate abuse. Yet these options may escalate perpetrators' violence, including threats against children or the victim.Half of the homicides in Maine from 1996 to 2006 stemmed from domestic violence. Predominant aggressor identification is the next step to support the abused, hold batterers accountable and increase public safety.

Predominant aggressor does not refer to who struck first. It applies when both parties use violence towards each other, but the distinction occurs when the victim is in fear of imminent bodily injury.

["It applies when both parties use violence towards each other, but the distinction occurs when the victim is in fear of imminent bodily injury"--in other words, it's mutual combat, and there should be a dual arrest, but instead we arrest only the man, not because of anything he's done but because he's bigger than the women. That's is one hell of an admission these authors are making.]

The predominant aggressor is most responsible for the violence, used a higher level of violence, has an established history of violence and represents an ongoing threat of violence. To determine who used more substantial force, officers are trained to examine level of injuries, the history of violence, as well as answering who is afraid of who.

[I can go along with who has an "established history of violence," although even then, previous arrests based on gender bias may pollute the record. "Who is afraid of who" is code for "arrest the man."]

At the academy, new law enforcement officers are taught to assess situations where danger is imminent and use appropriate force to subdue the threat, to protect themselves or protect another, as anyone can.

[Actually, at the academy, new law enforcement officers are taught to always blame the man for the DV situation. I often hear from police officers who tell me how they are "trained" and "coerced" to put their common  sense and experience aside and pretend that only men should be arrested for DV.]

It is important for police to identify predominant aggressors to avoid arresting the wrong party or both parties. By failing to hold batterers accountable, police would hand the batterer another tool to control their partner.

["It is important for police to identify predominant aggressors to avoid arresting the wrong party or both parties." Translation--"It is important for police to avoid arresting women."]

Also, survivors of domestic violence are often primary caregivers for children. This creates situations in which the true victims will be re-victimized by the criminal justice system if a parent is improperly arrested.Proper predominant aggressor identification and enforcement is not new for Maine. It's part of basic academy training; in the last seven years, about 700 law enforcement officers have been trained in these new techniques.

But there are about 2,500 full-time and 1,000 part-time officers in Maine. This mandate will provide training for all officers, not only recent graduates. It also ensures police adopt predominant aggressor identification protocols in responding to a domestic violence call. This will provide a consistent response for all citizens across Maine.Through additional training, officers will develop a greater understanding of domestic violence's complexities. For the court system, predominant aggressor identification will provide for more thorough investigations, so prosecutors and courts can better hold batterers accountable for criminal behavior.

["Through additional training, officers will develop a greater understanding of domestic violence's complexities." No, the average street cop knows all about DV's "complexities," and knows that women are at least as likely to abuse their men as vice versa. This "training" is conducted by the feminist-dominated domestic violence industry, for the purpose of getting cops to put aside what they know and instead follow politically-correct, anti-male arrest policies.]

"Utilizing predominant aggressor identification will also provide an accurate account of the immediate crisis and a holistic view of the situation as well. This gives more tools to the justice system to increase safety for victims, and their families, hold batterers accountable and add to the stigma of being a batterer.

[I agree that there should be a stigma against batterers, though that stigma has existed to various degrees for centuries. A "holistic view of the situation" means that cops shouldn't look at what actually transpired in a  DV situation, but instead should view the "larger situation" as relayed to them by the feminist domestic violence industry. What that means is women are victims and men are batterers.]

To learn more about problems with the domestic violence system, see:

[Note: If you or someone you love is being abused, the Domestic Abuse Helpline for Men and Women provides crisis intervention and support services to victims of domestic violence and their families.]

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  1. bmmg39 Says:

    Will you be penning a response for that paper (and others)?

  2. DanH Says:

    ““Gretchen Ziemer, legislative coordinator for the Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence”

    THERE IS A GOD!!! Gretchen, God love you!

    To “END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,” be damn sure 60% of those arrested due to a 9-1-1 call are WOMEN! GAWD… If you can do that, the children in the State of Maine will be far, far more protected than they every have been before!

    Please tell us you are up to this task and are willing to stand up and get the job done! The kids want, need, and deserve violent mothers be removed from their lives. Please tell us you are totally committed to seeing this happen!

    DanH

  3. Robert Says:

    "Mandatory arrest transformed the justice system response nationally, but with costs. It has led to increased dual arrests and female victims arrested for domestic violence. Numerous studies show the drastic increase in female arrests is not from an increase of women perpetrators, but from women protecting themselves."

    So why don't they just come right out and say it?
    All domestic violence is man on woman and if a call is made we are going to arrest the man.

  4. Malcolm Says:

    How often have you heard a big man described as a "gentle giant"? Big men are often like this because they are well aware of their ability to cause harm and that people will instinctively blame them in any incident. Their 5'4" wives, on the other hand, may feel emboldened if they believe that the police and everyone else will believe that they are victims.

  5. Dave Says:

    Just who is the "predominant aggressor"? I hope that they make this determination based upon proven facts and not based upon fear, prejudice and hysteria.

    From:
    http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/42/15/31-a

    In 2001, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health attempted to amass data about the health of a nationally representative sample of 14,322 individuals between the ages of 18 and 28. The study also asked subjects to answer questions about romantic or sexual relationships in which they had engaged during the previous five years and whether those relationships had involved violence.

    Regarding perpetration of violence, more women than men (25 percent versus 11 percent) were responsible. In fact, 71 percent of the instigators in nonreciprocal partner violence were women.

  6. JenK Says:

    Funny, her whole response is just rephrasing all the original rhetoric, with no actual responce to Glenn's criticism.

  7. callum Says:

    Yeah she doesn't actually counter any criticisms he has of the legislation. Glenn says women don't usually hit in self defence, she says something about criminalising abuse, yet seems to imply that when a woman does it it is not abuse. This is false, and this woman is a liar.

    The Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence (against women, and to encourage violence against men by making it IMPOSSIBLE to arrest female perpetrators.)

    She should be ashamed.

  8. bmmg39 Says:

    Please pass this new study on to that newspaper and to the organizations involved:

    http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/42/15/31-a

    "In fact, when it comes to nonreciprocal violence between intimate partners, women are more often the perpetrators....These findings on intimate partner violence come from a study conducted by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)."

  9. Malcolm Says:

    It is impossible for a policemen to judge the relationship dynamics beyond the evidence of what he or she sees, just as it is impossible for a judge to be sure that a man will not be violent or abusive at some time in the future. The predominant aggressor doctrine, the issue of ROs like confetti and the denial of access on the basis of unsubstantiated allegations are all effectively results of blackmail which says that if someone with the benefit of hindsight gets it wrong by not arresting the man etc, he or she is toast.

  10. Robert Says:

    Thanks for the link bmmg39, here's another that backs up the one you posted.
    http://www.lectlaw.com/files/fam27.htm

  11. Savagebongos Says:

    Re: Mandatory arrest orders.
    They're patently unconstitutional. Innocent untill proven guilty is supposed to be the law of the land...or did something change while I was working to pay taxes ?? I don't give a flying F**K about their public safety arguement...under this line of thinking ANY GOVERNMENT ACTION can be justified & rubberstamped under the guise of in the public interest of ...safety.
    What a lie this is. If unconstitutional powers are what the government ( and their willing accomplices ) wants...let them get the votes for it directly from the people...no politicians, no judges...( we know how you operate ) A direct vote of the people only will do. And make it an instant death penalty for any politician, judge, or police officers or anyone else in government ( like CPS ) to violate it....It's the only thing power junkies understand. ( and all government people ARE powerjunkies....that's why they got into government in the first place )
    Ok....so I'm dreaming, cause you've already boiled the frog & now have the power to act like assholes with impugnity and its all legal...dosen't mean I have to like it.
    All I'm saying is this....If you're going to act like tyrants at least be benevolent about it. If there is a DV call ( I don't care from who..) arrest BOTH parties put the kids in protective services till the mess is settled...spread the misery equally. The present system of mantatory arrest orders just gives the woman an upper hand...and you know it's been used by women like a monkey with a handgun ( unless that's the idea ??)
    If we live in a just society...& I like to think we do......( But I could be wrong about that ) then equal misery under the law is the least you could do.
    PS: I'm ready to match whitz with anyone who wants to debate me. Government folks march to the front of the line.

  12. Rik Little Says:

    Perhaps if any domestic violence 911 call is made the police should move in and kill the entire family. Thin the herd and make entertainment on the TV news. If as the law says 'All men are created equal" why shouldn't they be destroyed equally? 3 fifths of Maine is Ma, Lets kill them all and stop the violence.

  13. Tired of Liars Says:

    Most women claiming to be abuse victims are junkies and/or alcoholics who are lying to get attention. They aren't worth spitting on, but our society has debased itself in the name of saving these morons from themselves. They aren't worth it. Women who make abuse claims but are not credible should simply be ignored; other women who love the excitement of living with thugs should be allowed to enjoy the consequences of that excitement.

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