I Discuss Joe Biden’s Dangerous New Domestic Violence Bill on the Maria Sanchez Show (Audio Available)
January 27th, 2008 by Glenn Sacks, MA for Fathers & Families
I discussed Senator Joe Biden’s dangerous new National Domestic Violence Volunteer Attorney Network Act on the Maria Sanchez Show on KVTA AM 1520 in Ventura, CA on January 14.
The audio of the interview is available--to listen, click here or on the audio button below.
To learn more, see my co-authored column Biden’s Misguided S1515 Will Exacerbate Domestic Violence System’s Problems (Philadelphia Daily News, 12/7/07).
[Note: If you or someone you love is being abused, the Domestic Abuse Helpline for Men and Women provides crisis intervention and support services to victims of domestic violence and their families.]
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January 27th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Keep up the good work, Glenn. Maria is an ally, I think. (I have known her since high school, since she was Maria Kramer.) I would like to see her in a bigger market -- for her sake, and yours.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Between Joe Biden and Bill Bradley, it makes you think that these two child predators (child exploitaion and maltreatment) and misandrists want to replace the myth of Jimmy Hoffa at Giants Stadium with the symbol of the 'batter-molester-deadbeat-lazy-presumed criminal dad'. Keep them away fom the U.S. Constitution at the National Archives or it will reak more of urine, feeces and footprints than it already does now.
Mike
January 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
This bill is a very clear illustration of what feminists mean by the phrase "equality under the law."
And, just like VAWA, it will pass by a near-unanimous vote, because no politician can risk being "against women and children."
Kim Gandy at NOW must start every morning laughing out loud about the dire threat that the men's and father's movement poses for Feminism, Inc.
January 27th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Maybe Joe would consider a manditory lie detector test in front of lawyers of the accuser when children are involved. I hope so.
January 27th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
I would be very interested in hearing everyone's proposed solutions to this problem.
Rik Little's suggestion is one. In fact, there are some real advances being claimed in the field of neurologically based lie detection, so traditional push-back on lie detectors might be rebuttable.
What are people's other proposed solutions?
This is a hard problem to solve, so one should have clear solution proposals in hand when what one is complaining about is being positioned by others as "protecting vulnerable women".
Solutions please!
January 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Everyone should listen to this interview -- Glenn is so very credible. What I love is that Glenn is so damn even-handed, so damn reasonable. I know it's often necessary to vent, especially when you've got a personal story to tell. But the goal is NOT to preach to the choir, because that's not going to accomplish anything except make the devotees feel better. The goal is to reach people who never think about these issues and just assume the courts are fair, etc. I agree with Ms. Sanchez -- Glenn is reasonable, and that is the most dangerous opponent to rabid radical feminism. If you're a person who's never heard of any of this, Glenn will scare you.
We all need to back him on these issues.
January 28th, 2008 at 12:43 am
Maybe Arlen of PA would require in the new bill that the charges of domestic violence by a woman against a man when a child is involved be subject to a death sentence if the claims are not prosecuted or the man is acquited. Aren't children that important? It would be a good deterant to false accusations. Free Mumia.
January 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
AnonP. --From what I've read on numerous MRA sites, I'd observe that the "conventional wisdom" is that mens' rights advocates need to recruit more women to take up our cause. (The Wendy McElroy trojan horse strategy....)
My personal belief is that women will do this only when they are experiencing sufficient personal discomfort and inconvenience such that they will have to actually consider that the entitlement "pussy power" dynamics in the gender wars are truly changing.
This would happen reasonably quickly if there were a publicized marriage and dating strike covered by the MSM focusing on men's growing rejection of Chivalry.
Women in general appreciate what is immediate. They are not typically historically minded or futurists by inclination.
Men need to communicate how their own experiences of gender injustice are going to be immediately and continuously FELT by women, until feminism is eliminated as a form of legal oppression.
Open your own door, buy your own lunch, change your own spare tire, take a class in basic home mechanical maintenance, enjoy singlehood with your cat and the Oprah network, take up with a lesbian partner, whatever...
You go girls!
Preferably, go away until you have an epiphany above your neck.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
When you see a new stop sign erected somewhere, it's generally because people who live in the area have complained, for whatever reason, that there was no stop sign.
I believe that most people will not become involved in gender politics, or politics of any kind, unless it affects them. A happily married stay-at-home mom is usually not apt either to oppose fathers' rights OR to become more than casually involved in feminist politics. The same is true for happily married fathers with respect to the men's rights movement. There certainly are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but usually nothing is done unless it's driven by the people affected.
If the men who are affected are mobilized, they can finally, at long last, have a voice -- it won't always be listened to, but it will be heard. And it's because of the Internet and people like Glenn.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
In terms of writing our senators (again?) it would be great to have an understanding of numbers or metrics to determine fraudulent abuse cases. I know I have seen all kinds of different numbers fly around here, but very little with sources. Any thoughts folks? Thanks!
January 28th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Lance, I'm having difficulty finding false DV statistics. But I have a source on false rape allegations that have basically the same numbers I see around the net: 25 to 40%. Here's the link:
www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1719
If you write a senator about DV remember to tell him that women are coached by attorneys and people at battered women shelters so that they can get an idea that false accusations are an industry.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Lance, I found a DV site that can shed some light on false allegations:
www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-51.htm
January 29th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Thanks Stephen! I'll take a look.
January 30th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
The figure that I have seen is that DV charges that are either proven false or dropped is 70%. I believe what is most important is what we propose to do about this bill to our senators. If it cannot be defeated directly, then we can propose that it include funding for attorneys to be furnished to the parties (usually men) accused of DV. Additionally, the little legal phrase "without prejudice", which we are forced to sign off on to get charges dropped, should specifically be held inoperable in cases of perjury! Funding should be provided to pursue prosecution of those making false charges, as well as those attorneys who suborn perjury. I am sending this to my two Texas Senators, as well as e-mailing the article to several of my friends and asking them to make the same proposal. We were not effective in stopping VAWA II, so maybe we can have some success in amending one of these tyrannical bills to help us more than hurt us! In military jargon, we can use this as a flanking maneuver to either achieve the objective or as a feint to distract the enemy while mustering strength for the true assault.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
As it is my understanding, our laws provide for INNOCENCE until being PROVEN guilty. This ought ALWAYS be the case, even if the perceived 'bad guy' gets away sometimes. First of all, marriage isn't a matter to be taken lightly or engaged in on a whim. Neither should a divorce. In fact, I advocate EDUCATION before vows and a TRIAL before a divorce is granted. In between, it is of utmost importance that MARRIAGE be treated as a COVENANT instead of a mere convenience (the movie "FIREPROOF" is a good means of beginning to understand the concept if you don't already). Our national moral values are deteriorating and it isn't a matter of simply being religious or not. It is facing facts, of nature, of humanity, of personal and interpersonal values. When we deny these facets of life, our values deplete and we treat one another badly. When we hold self evident the truth of all men being created EQUAL and offer others the same kind of treatment we would want for ourselves, events have a way of working out a lot better. When things do take a wrong turn, it should only be the GUILTY -- NOT the 'accused' -- who are punished. Even then, all action -- to include punitive, child or spousal support, custody, and so forth -- should be with reconciliation in mind whenever possible. There is, for our consideration, the concept of being merciful and forgiving, too. At present, we have such horrible ideas as 'no fault' and '50-50' and 'the mom gets the kid regardless' and 'dad is bad' and 'who cares what the custodial parent spends the support money on?'. These methods depress our built-in concern for one another and actually encourage rotten behavior. What can we do? Get as involved as you reasonably can in the lives of those who need intervention. Help, not hinder. Encourage. Take the high road. Put deceit and selfishness beneath you and those you are trying to assist. Make marriage and family a GOOD experience that will be a wonderful reward in years to come!
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
WA state falsly accused Mr mom father of 4 troubling very vulnerable children taken out of home. Crying wolf - false Domestic violence done by women. The abuse is done by this torubled women with a family history and ver distructive past. The children are still floudering.
Risking more damage to the children - wh then will pay????
WA state courts and whole system had failed these 4 children. Can their lives be salvaged?
An appeal is filed- a sanction is writen. We need a PI says Lawyer. Trusting a PI - how would we know this one is not a crook!? The kids counselor says we need to go to the Gov- she knows and did nothing, not even 5 minutes. This is criminal.
Stop child sexual abuse
Stop abuse of the law
Stop crying wolf false D/V
Stop child abuse abuse of all kinds
Stop the secrets
Stop those in power by attacking their pocket book- no heart to be found (yet)
Help those in need of mental health
Look at the history- pay attention
Hold those in contempt of the law.
Hold the child sexual abusers accoutable as well as the system who knows
Why would a child sexual abuser have more rights to protection than the children?
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