Dartmouth Students Rebel Against Feminist Professor's Manbashing, She Reacts by....Suing Her Students! (Part I)
May 12th, 2008 by Glenn Sacks, MA for Fathers & Families
"[The students] staged a rebellion..."
From Joseph Rago's Dartmouth's 'Hostile' Environment (Wall Street Journal, 5/5/08):
"After a winter of discontent, the snapping point came while Priya Venkatesan was lecturing on 'ecofeminism,' which holds, in part, that scientific advancements benefit the patriarchy but leave women out. One student took issue, and reasonably so – actually, empirically so. But 'these weren't thoughtful statements,' Ms. Venkatesan protests. 'They were irrational.' The class thought otherwise. Following what she calls the student's 'diatribe,' several of his classmates applauded.
"Ms. Venkatesan informed her pupils that their behavior was 'fascist demagoguery.' Then, after consulting a physician about 'intellectual distress,' she cancelled classes for a week. Thus the pending litigation.
"Such conduct is hardly representative of the professoriate at Dartmouth, my alma mater. Faculty members tend to be professional. They also tend to be sane.
"That said, even at – or especially at – putatively superior schools, students are spoiled for choice when it comes to professors who share ideologies like Ms. Venkatesan's. The main result is to make coursework pathetically easy. Like filling in a Mad Libs, just patch something together about "interrogating heteronormativity," or whatever, and wait for the returns to start rolling in...
"Why not? It's effortless, and there are better ways to spend time than thinking deeply about ecofeminism.
"The remarkable thing about the Venkatesan affair, to me, is that her students cared enough to argue. Normally they would express their boredom with the material by answering emails on their laptops or falling asleep. But here they staged a rebellion, a French Counter-Revolution against Professor Defarge. Maybe, despite the professor's best efforts, there's life in American colleges yet."
When I was in college 25 years ago I remember my roommate telling me about a recent lecture on "ecofeminism" in his class. The feminist professor's thesis was "just as men rape women, they rape the earth."
So here the male students in the class (the small percentage who make it to college these days) had been listening to this anti-male nonsense class after class and finally did what they should do far, far more often--they challenged it. Rather than engaging in debate, the feminist professor pretended to be a victim, cancelled classes for a week, scurried off to another school to teach, and is now suing her students. It is also quite possible that some of those who rebelled against the feminist professor were female students who've not yet been poisoned with the anti-male bigotry relentlessly pushed in Women's Studies classes.
I'm sure the professor also has/will have plenty of scurrilous things to say about the despised male rebels. One advantage though--whereas in family court women often have free reign to vilify the men who they feel done them wrong, in this case most if not all of what transpired must have happened in front of witnesses. I'll be surprised if her lawsuit goes anywhere, but you never know.
Maybe Dartmouth will settle with her and give her a hefty welfare check just to go away--after all, she is an oppressed female, and an oppressed "woman of color" to boot. In the politically correct college world, that gives her a vast advantage over her male students, though I'm sure she would never acknowledge it.
Thanks to Jean Valjean, a regular poster, for sending me the story.
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May 12th, 2008 at 1:20 am
I'm curious as to what, exactly, the students did? Are they really going to be sued ... for clapping?
May 12th, 2008 at 1:27 am
Speaking as a college student, I have to say that seeing stories like this, alongside other debacles like Duke's Group of 88 and the Ward Churchill incident, really makes me ask the one eternal question: how the hell did these people ever get to be professors? As a minor disclaimer, let me say now that most of the profs I've had personally (with one or two exceptions) have been great teachers and people who do not inject their views into class and allow for wide-ranging class discussion. But seriously, WTF?
I think what this case shows is just how much of a house of cards radical feminist ideology (and similar radical ideologies) really are. It's ironic, really: these people profess so much belief in their beliefs, almost like a religion. They live, breath, sleep, and die believing that their extremist views are the absolute, God's-honest way the world works. Yet once someone, ANYONE, gathers up the guts to get past the PC barrier surrounding the radical person and their equally radical beliefs and actually challenge them rationally, those same religiously followed and believed viewpoints prove to be so totally fragile. At the intellectual level, it's almost like a giant, grand statue of a Greek god that crumbles into dust at the slightest poke of the finger. Like I said, it's ironic, and an interesting question: just how can people be led to believe so heavily in beliefs that are so intellectually fragile?
The fact that she's claiming "intellectual distress" and sueing students for disagreeing with her really shows just what happens when this "crumbling" process occurs: panic. My guess is that she was totally flustered and unprepared for her views to actually be challenged (God forbid, right?), and on top of that, totally humiliated not only when she couldn't think of a sufficient rebuttal to her opponent's challenges, but when people agreed with his argument over hers (thereby revealing a shocking, to this person at least, truth: not everyone in the world agrees with her, and many of those people who disagree with her are normal people rather than the conversely radical demons she imagines). I'm sure that, in a way, what she's feeling is a sort of "intellectual distress," in the sense that she's seeing her dogmatic views crumble around her. But cases like this do not call for sympathy: this is merely the thing that happens when you worship in a church made of straw (I came up with that metaphor just now. Feel free to use it).
That is why my personal philosophy is that belief, as an abstract concept, must remain flexible and elastic (although not completely fluid and changed by the slightest of influences, obviously). When you put so much time and energy and health into rigid beliefs, this sort of thing is how you react when those beliefs are destroyed. Why not simply save yourself the humilation and emotiional distress by keeping elastic opinions and not following everything you believe in to the dot?
Unfortunately, my anticipation is that, like Ward Churchill and like the Group of 88, she won't learn from this. Like you said, Glenn, she's scurrying off to another college. As in, she's scurrying to a place where her views haven't been challenged and can try to forget this troubling (to her) incident and keep the "faith" running. It's typical, and it's quite dismaying how not only people in general, but professors, the people we entrust with our intellects and the teaching of the youth, can be so immature.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Excellent post Alex -- you really do wonder, don't you, how such people get to be professors. I guess the selection criteria have more to do with ideology than competence. It's reassuring to see that there are students like you with heads on their shoulders who can recognize b.s. when they see it.
Incidentally, it appears that Ms. Venkatesan is now at Northwestern University and has dropped her suit. Let's hope that the students there are as clear-sighted as you.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Mark this student insurrection as a turning point.
Years ago we operated in a sort of vacuum. Profs would teach us things and we'd have no means to argue. Now, the Internet has brought knowledge to everyone. A few clicks and credible sources can be uncovered, saying things that are in books that libraries won't carry. Who, pre-internet, had heard of Warren Farrell, for example? This is how feminism will ultimately fall; they can no longer say things that will go unchallenged. There is too much accessible knowledge out there.
Anyway, my feeling is these boys had access to knowledge their elders didn't have and are thusly putting it to use. If one of them is reading this blog (or reads it regularly), please chime in and say hello.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:53 am
Hahaha ... hilarious!
And people think 3rd world women (the professor is probably from India judging by her name) are better than American women, implying that they are less misandric. Let this be a lesson to all those.
On the other hand, maybe at the next school, they will give her a firing squad standing by the classroom. Anyone who challenges shall be instantly "corrected".
I hope the student who challenged her does not get graded by this buffoon. It is one of those occasions where I really hate the one -sided schooling system.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Coming from India, she should have known better about fascism and socialism through experience. Either she really did not know what "fascist demagoguery" meant or she has never been to India or she has yet to clean her socio-(commie) thought process which is usually carefully inculcated by the Indian university system.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:08 am
Intellectual distress huh?
Is that just a fancy term for saying "they tried to make me think"?
I've never heard of anything like this before. Most professors would be thrilled that their students cared enough to present a well thought out view point. They would accept the debate or instruct them to bring it to their attention after class if it was detracting too much time from the lecture material.
I think this is what happens when someone is allowed to go through the educational process without being challenged to think critically... and then is suddenly confronted with the reality that not everyone sees things the way they do and that their long held dogmatic position isn't as unshakable as thry previously believed.
Hopefully all of this will have a positive outcome.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:47 am
what is "ecofeminism"?
what is "intellectual distress"?
Does anyone know the answers to these questions? I was just wondering.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:52 am
Guess what folks, she's a "victim" of nasty male faculty as well:
http://www.dartblog.com/data/2008/04/007756.php
How convenient there's no evidence to refute her claims. (Or support them for that matter).
May 12th, 2008 at 3:54 am
"Priya Venkatesan was lecturing on 'ecofeminism,' which holds, in part, that scientific advancements benefit the patriarchy but leave women out".
Wow if she was going on about this I would have protested as well.
"But 'these weren't thoughtful statements"
What exactly constitutes a "thoughtful" statement?
"The latest spectacle is an Ivy League professor threatening to sue her students because, she claims, their "anti-intellectualism" violated her civil rights".
The student's anti-intellectualism? What about her's?
"They'd argue with your ideas." This caused "subversiveness," a principle English professors usually favor".
Oh my.......aghast............they argued with her ideas...............Oh no. Couple this with the phrase up above and this becomes quite comical.
'"Ms. Venkatesan's scholarly specialty is "science studies," which, as she wrote in a journal article last year, "teaches that scientific knowledge has suspect access to truth." She continues: "Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct."'
Yes the Law of Gravity is a social construct. It's all becoming clearer now.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:25 am
Fortis wrote;
"Yes the Law of Gravity is a social construct. It's all becoming clearer now."
Therefore presumably all right-thinking feminists unencumbered by Newton's twaddle would float off into space. Ah...if only!
May 12th, 2008 at 5:31 am
Sokal affair anyone?
May 12th, 2008 at 7:16 am
There's a word for people like this professor on American campuses: tenured.
Our colleges are replete with professors whose sole academic mission is to let the "clueless," middle class students know that they are privileged at the expense of countless oppressed and subjugated persons throughout the world, and that what they've been "fed" by their government and by the superficial American media is not the truth. Their diatribes take aim first and foremost at America, which they hate, and capitalism, which they hate even more; add a pinch of radical feminism, and the "patriarchy" gets mixed in that toxic brew.
These professors are not capable of enlightening because their simplistic diatribes are typically posited without regard for factual accuracy. Nuance is tossed to the winds in favor of a larger "truth," which is really not truth at all because it is based solely on feelings, especially hatred. To be a typical American male on campus is, in the eyes of these professors, the lowest form of humanity, representing the oppressor class in all its glory. It is astounding to me why any guy would take one of these ultra-left wing classes -- unless, of course, he's a self-loathing male who finds it somehow erotic to be constantly shamed for having been born with the dreaded Y-chromosome.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:18 am
“she claims, their "anti-intellectualism" violated her civil rights.”
Funny, I would have thought argument would be an intellectual enterprise rather than an anti-intellectual one, and even then what has this to do with civil rights? Did men like King die so women would have the right to not have their ideas challenged?
If a woman is so intellectually weak that she can’t take being challenged she should teach kindergarten not College.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:45 am
I think this quote below from this woman says it all:
Ms. Venkatesan lectured in freshman composition, intended to introduce undergraduates to the rigors of expository argument. “My students were very bully-ish, very aggressive, and very disrespectful,” she told Tyler Brace of the Dartmouth Review. “They’d argue with your ideas."
She obviously wants absolute power and no dissent or free thinking.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:04 am
The university I go to is similar. These women are quite comical. They go out of their ways to humiliate 1/2 the population, including the males in the class. Then, at the slightest dissent, THEY GET OFFENDED. Wow, just wow.
I've got an idea that I think I will actually use in my own university setting (I'm a student). Besides playing victim, one of the more common tactics of these ideologue profs is to hide behind theories. Let's take this story, for example. It is not Priya actually humiliating the men in the class; it's the theory....she is just describing a theory. I could definitely see that. So, and I'm not joking here, I think if I hide behlind academic theory it will help protect me when I protest.
I know about guys like Warren Farrell that actually make logical sense. However, that is not what I want. I want some hateful garbage anti-feminist thoughts just like the ones the feminut professors use. I want to stir the pot, give them a lesson about how it feels to have "your kind" denigrated in front of an entire class. If anyone knows of such, please give me the lowdown.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:12 am
So that's how the patriarchy holds women down. It artificially created gravity. [/sarcasm]
Oh, non-sequitir. Danica Patrick will start in the middle of row 2 at the INDY 500 (which still doesn't equal her own best start.) I ran down her driving in another post and have to eat some crow.
She also ran over a crewman in pit row.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:14 am
This is a pretty scary tale of academic political correctiness, as well as a textbook example of completely unprofessional behavior from a professor.
I'll have to call my sophomore daughter at Northwestern University and warn her not to enroll in Ms. Venkatesan's courses.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:25 am
You know I remember when "class participation" was part of your grade.
b
bernies blogs
May 12th, 2008 at 8:43 am
-------And people think 3rd world women (the professor is probably from India judging by her name) are better than American women, implying that they are less misandric------
Other day I was browsing through a social networking site, and I found a community called "Feminism Without Borders". In fact it is misandry that has no borders.
Any way indian urban "independent"(but hopelessly slavish to materialism) women are doing their best to be "liberated" females of the West. And I laugh whenever I think of their future.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:54 am
In 2006, Pennyslvania took up the issue of politicization in the State System of Higher Ed. The hearings were dominated by persons with the most to lose (as is true with every political movement) -- and they urged that this not be treated seriously. It died on the vine.
One professor who testified, however, ruffled some pompous feathers by stating things beyond plausible dispute. His name is Professor Alan Levy. Prof. Levy's thesis is that faculty who have demonstrably little in the way of legitimate academic credentials and accomplishments have gravitated to the easily-mouthed cliches of feminism and other forms of p.c. By doing so they accomplish two things: 1) They give one another a false veneer of both liberalism and academic accomplishment without actually ever doing anything in the way of real research or substantive teaching; and 2) They arm themselves with McCarthyistic bats with which they instantly attack any opponents as sexist, homophobic, racist, ... who speak against them.
His testimony can be found here: http://hnn.us/articles/23231.html
May 12th, 2008 at 9:01 am
MichaelClaymore Says:
"If a woman is so intellectually weak that she can’t take being challenged she should teach kindergarten not College."
Interestingly, this is the case ususally. Misandry can be found starting quite early in life (you can find misandric posters on walls in some classrooms). Feminism lite or misandry lite is delivered in small servings to the little oens when their minds are most malleable.
And Bernie, feel free to participate as long as you do not disagree with the new gynocentric religion - MATRIARCHY!
May 12th, 2008 at 9:17 am
This lawsuit is complete and utter nonsense. We challenge our children to think and to question and to form their own opinions yet we see "teachers"(and I use the word loosely here) threatening to sue students because they decide to question the drivel she is attemptinig to pass of as fact. I hope more students stand up and question the mental conditioning they are recieving in many schools across our country. Perhaps then universities will again become teaching institutions and not platforms for a particular groups agendas.
May 12th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Re: "ecofeminism" and "just as men rape women, they rape the earth."
The number of animals sacrificed for the sake of women’s cosmetics is aerosols, like hairspray, oven cleaner, and all the cleaners that they used, along with all the products that they used because aerosols made it convenient. I do not seem to hear women complaining about them.
Let us go back to the cosmetics, typically lots of small packaging, which ads to the “rape of the earth” because small packaging uses up much more space that lager items or sever items packaged in a bigger package.
Women were the primary reason for the growth in automatic transmissions, which is not fuel friendly, standards add to gas mileage.
Women it is safe to say are the largest consumers of body, clothing, hair, and other fragrances, by far. I do not see too many men saying “Oh I have just got to have this lilac shampoo!”
Scented products are no longer pure i.e. made from flower oils; they are now made with over 4,000 chemicals including:
Toluene
Ethanol
Acetone
Formaldehyde
Limonene
Benzene derivatives
Methylene chloride
and many others known to cause cancer, birth defects, infertility, nervous system damage, or other injuries. The EPA found chloroform as well in fabric softeners.
There are far fewer clothes made for men that have to be dry-cleaned.
Fabric softeners, anti-cling products, disinfectants, other strongly-scented products, and most detergents hair mousse and gels, hairspray, or chemically process your hair have toxic ingredients. ALL of these are of great concern to men as opposed to women [facetious].
All mentioned here are convenience or worse “vanity” items, of which women are drawn to by enlarge. Things that make you say hmmmmmm.
Yep I am now convinced that it is ONLY men who rape the earth, girls do you really want to get into this type of war?
b
bernies blogs
May 12th, 2008 at 9:56 am
don't bash all professors. i'm a professor and i think this women is nuts. every other faculty member that i talked to about this story also thinks she's nuts. we want students to be engaged, the biggest problem is usually apathy. she sounds like a novice teacher with an unstable personality and a big chip on her shoulder. even if a student is rude (and some are), there are ways to handle it. it's teaching 101. she also fought with other faculty members, BTW. Northwestern is gonna regret hiring her.
May 12th, 2008 at 9:58 am
AKhi, you're right. As I move further up education, they steadily increase the brainwashing. Aside from a few obvious exceptions (maths, science, sport etc) and psychology and politics, all subjects have some aspects of feminism or misnadry in them. English, history, RS, all the modern languages. And from what I know of university, I have a lot more to look forward to.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Rock on jean for sending in this piece.
I blew a couple proffessors minds last year with some statistics I pulled from Dr. Warren Farrels bestseller.."The myth of Male power".
May 12th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Too funny!
She was the victim of her own victimhood teachings........it's a bottomless pit!
May 12th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Wow, I am so glad that my undergrad was in engineering, and a conservative campus in the Midwest. I learned that KE = 0.5M(V^2). According the lady in this article, this truth about kinetic energy is not absolute because it might be fostered upon us by the patriarchy. I tell you what, the apparent half truth reached up and smacked the crap out of me when I hit a guard rail doing 55 mph a few years ago. That’s the thing about these pseudo-intellectuals teaching in the lib arts sections on our campuses: their theories sound great, and they argue for them passionately; but the fall apart quick in the real world.
I think the real tragedy of this story is not that some sociopath (her manipulating behaviors to assert and maintain her power as referenced in http://www.dartblog.com/data/2008/04/007756.php lead me to level that accusation) is teaching bunk at an Ivy League school (I am distressed that she is now polluting the Big Ten); but; rather, that this is not uncommon in the lib arts fields anymore. In fact, I would say that reasonableness and academic rigor are the exception in the lib arts field. The tragedy is that a lib arts education is no longer a credible means on which to get an education to equip one’s self to live a productive life.
I claim this is a tragedy because while my undergrad is engineering, and my grad is an MBA, I think some of my best learning came from reading some of the contemporary classics in high school. 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County, A Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, Of Mice and Men, The Grapes of Wrath, The Great Gatsby, and others were an integral part in helping me develop my point of view on society, bureaucrats, socialism, abuse of power, and such. This point of view has served me well, but it most likely could no longer be developed because all of those books were written by white, Western Civilization men. Each of the topics discussed in each of these books (poverty, class, controlling bureaucrats, cheating in a entertaining way in a frog jumping contest, privilege in the 20’s) is somehow invalidated because Twain, Fitzgerald, Steinbeck, Huxley, and Orwell were white men from the West.
What this lady, and her ilk, have done to higher education makes me sick. The sad thing is, is that this tripe is ever expanding. Soon I imagine I am going to hear how that Moments of Inertia, Markov Chain’s, Kinematic Physics, Gaussian Field’s, and all other forms of scientific knowledge I’ve learned are social constructs created to keep ‘The Man’ in a position of power. At that point, I hope a socially constructed meteor, that is accelerating at 32 per second squared, falls on their heads.
Later,
B
May 12th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Akhi Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 9:01 am
And Bernie, feel free to participate as long as you do not disagree with the new gynocentric religion - MATRIARCHY!
= = =
Akhi,
Um yea, right . . . Like that will happen . . . LOL . . . I am so glad that I have been teaching my boy and girls to sniff out and challange the bull defecation . . . and they are more clever that I thought thety would be at this age . . . they will catch things that really surprise me.
b
bernies blogs
May 12th, 2008 at 10:24 am
This day and age has set the perfect opportunity for an enterprising bunch to found a new college (ivy league of course), that does not prescribe to feminist hysteria.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:34 am
BigB:
'The tragedy is that a lib arts education is no longer a credible means on which to get an education to equip one’s self to live a productive life."
Spot on with that.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:42 am
BigB Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 10:08 am
= = =
B,
I found your post highly entertaining moreover, informative and accurate.
b
bernies blogs
May 12th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Great post BigB, but the good thing about physics is that most of those concepts can be demonstrated (and repeated) through experiment.
The only problem then is actually getting a chance to demonstrate that, which may be easier said than done, especially on a lib. arts campus (which I went to- for a science degree no less!)
May 12th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Well Indian women are used to putting men behind bars on their statements. She is just trying against her students what United States Embassy warns United States Citizens of Indian origin exactly about this in their travel advisory.
An Indian Feminist reasoned argument . Give a break. They can only talk of putting men to jail
May 12th, 2008 at 10:55 am
It's good to see the number of college students postin g here. When I was in school about 12 years ago and would challenge the attack I was all alone. The female students would join in on the ambush on me and when I trurned to the males for support they'd all have their heads down, thoroughly beaten and knowing it was a lost cause.
Stay in school boys. Dropping out out of frustration will only hurt the cause.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:02 am
How dare someone refute her with empirical evidence!
As a professor you would think she would want empirical evidence to present accurate information in her teaching.
But alas we know that it does not conform to her agenda, so how dare these students challenge her.
Good job kids. Keep up the good work.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:11 am
There is hope for academics in Dartmouth College.
http://www.dartmouth.edu
"You might have thought we had finally cast off the shackles of Old Dartmouth. The Indian mascot has been abandoned, the student body is 50% female, and the gay community even has a couple of college recognized organizations. Not to mention that a quick browse through the Facebook will confirm that a sizeable plurality of Dartmouth students place themselves under the vague banner of “Liberal.” But the political situation is not quite the rosy shade of pinko it might seem. If you scratch off the veneer of fashionable post-adolescent liberalism, you’ll find that our community is dominated by conservative interests, but has great potential for significant change."
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~thepress/read.php?id=1071
May 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am
The colleges are rife with misanadry. Sexual harassment poster decorate every hall. Sexual assault pamphlets regularly handed out. Anti-male vitriol is standard operating procedure by the feminist controlled universities. The message is clear "men are not welcome here." Those that are either naive or brave enough to enrolled are subject to poor treatment, and an atmosphere that treats them as potential predators and abusers.
Little if any help will be offered to these male students, such as how to fill out fafsa, how to do this and that. They are on their own, unless they "ask" the right questions no information will ever be volunteered to them.
All the while for the female students faculty and staff trip over themselves to assist each and ever female student. Wonder why men don't attend college?
May 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am
I remember a TV show where a character, a scientist, asked, "You don't believe science knows the answers do you?"
The return was, "I don't think science knows the right questions."
May 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Bharati,
Indian law does not only put the man into prison, simply based on the woman's statement - it includes everyone in the family of the in-laws and any extension, family friends etc.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am
What is "French narrative theory"?
May 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am
@Panka
Yep, this is to keep all the men in check. Women rule through fear and intimidation...
May 12th, 2008 at 11:45 am
I was unaware the problem had spread to India.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:59 am
http://dartlog.net/2008/04/tdr-interview-priya-venkatesan.php
I got through about half way through reading the interview and about fell asleep with utter boredome so cant even give any critical anaylisis, but if I was in her class I think I would hang myself or hope I would wake up from a horrible dream.
You will have to excuse me I was going to attempt to make some clever comment but just thought its nice weather right now here in the UK so I think Ill just go for a walk and enjoy the day.
Ps They do teach some strange subjects at Uni's (I did an engineering degree so I admit to being a science snob)
May 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
@The King of K
Oh yea, I've been aware for some time things are REALLY jacked up over there. Guys get arrested easily over there now for bogus dowary claims, etc... Feminism is all over the place and spreads easily like cancer spreads via the process of matastises. Just takes a few cancer cells to get into that bloodstream and off the go to generate in other parts of the body. So lung cancer ends up being colon, throat, liver cancer "eventually."
May 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
India is one of the worst. Look up dowry law and DV law in India, scary stuff. There are some countries that make me glad I'm "only" in America, and India is one of them.
Actually, the US is probably one of the best for the quality of life / feminist laws balance. Eastern bloc might be better, but the only reason the feminist laws are better are due to the rampant corruption, which doesn't make me feel safe moving there.
May 12th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Perhaps guys graduating from high school need a little primer about college. Here are a few ideas to start:
If you seek student financial aid, you will need to prove that you registered with the Selective Service System or you will be denied aid. Women, of course, are not required to register, and are not considered criminals for not registering but you are. (The Annual Report for the SSS provides the following statistic: "During FY 2006, 171,814 names of suspected violators" who failed to register with the Selective Service System or provide evidence of exemption were turned over to the Department of Justice "for investigation and possible prosecution." Of this total number of likely lawbreakers, of course, 171,814 were male, zero were female.)
You will quickly notice that there is a Women's Center on campus, paid for with your tuition money and your parents' taxes. When you ask where is the Men's Center, you will be mocked and informed that men control everything else on campus, even though you know that's not an accurate statement.
You will see that the school has an entire department devoted to Women's Studies, paid for with your tuition money and your parents' taxes. When you ask where is the Men's Studies department, you will be mocked and informed the rest of the curriculum is male-centered, even though you know that's not an accurate statement.
You will constantly be told that you are a member of a privileged class, even if you know for a fact you are not really privileged and even if you have had more disadvantages than your female peers.
You will be reminded that more than half the population is oppressed and subjugated because they had the misfortune of being born female, even though you know none of your female peers feel oppressed in any way.
You will see signs advertising "The Vagina Monologues" each Valentine's Day, which is replete with male bashing. If you and some buddies want to stage a male-positive antidote to this play, you will not be permitted to do so on campus.
If you are a wrestler or play some sport other than football or basketball, you stand a risk of having your sport eliminated by the school in order to make way for a women's sport under Title IX. The women's sport might find it difficult to attract enough participants even to compete, and young women who have never even played that particular sport might be given a scholarship just to fill the team. In contrast, you will see strong male wrestlers crying because they will be denied the chance to compete in the sport they've worked to excel at their entire lives.
You might see a clothesline with t-shirts hanging on it as part of an annual protest against rape. The names of supposed "rapists" will be written on the shirts -- perhaps your own name will appear on one, written by a jilted girlfriend who claims you raped her. She will justify writing your name on the shirt as an act of empowerment, even though it is defamation because it is a lie.
You will be viewed as a potential rapist and told that you need to monitor your behavior, even though the college you will attend will have essentially no complaints lodged with campus police about rape of any kind -- stranger rape, date rape or otherwise.
You will be reminded that you have no idea how it feels to be vulnerable to rapists because you are blessed with the Y-chromosome, all the while knowing that men on campus are far more likely than women to be victims of assault and physical injury at the hands of violent persons.
You will be told that relationship violence is a plague among couples on campus, and males will always be deemed the perpetrators when, in fact, males and females are about equal in their assaultive dating behavior.
You will be reminded that if you and a date become drunk and engage in mutual sexual relations, you will be guilty of the felony of rape while your consensual partner will be considered your victim.
If you ever have the misfortune of being wrongly accused of rape, your accuser will be assisted at every step of the way in making her accusation against you via a federally funded sexual assault counselor employed by the University; you, on the other hand, will receive no assistance whatsoever from the college -- even though false reporting of rape is a crime the same as rape is. You will not be afforded meaningful due process rights to defend yourself in the school, and you likely will be suspended at the very least.
Aside from all that, guys, have a great college career.
May 12th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Demonspawn
how would you know . After all we are all grown on stories from the media which has a certain way of biases and reporting . It is impossible for them talk on the sides of males at all.
I always thought that the west with its better laws and implementation would be completely fair as there is virtually little corruption . It is of late looking at the various mysandryst spouting of feminists that I came to the know about the ideological corruption that has become feminism.
Taxes are more at the same salary levels if you are a man
Property taxes are more if you are a man .
if you do not marry merely becuase you had consensual sex you could be charged with rape
I have twentyone points of legal inequality but the above three are sufficient to give an idea
Indian goverment has put more elderly women behind bars in a year then british ever did in any year all due feminism.
Feminism is all about punishing women who have good feeling towards men and rewarding women for harbouring ill feeling towards men .
But kudos to the dartmouth students for bringing out the emptiness of rhetoric. They displayed intellectual bravery
May 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Anyone know to which institution (aptly titled) this lady has gone to?
I hear that Duke is always on the lookout for 'professors' eager to publicly denigrate their students (the ones, they conveniently forget, that actually pay their inflated salaries).
I imagine she'd fit in quite well there.
May 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
She went to Northwestern.
May 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Alex said: That is why my personal philosophy is that belief, as an abstract concept, must remain flexible and elastic (although not completely fluid and changed by the slightest of influences, obviously).
Spoken like a Buddhist.
May 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Remove "intellectual distress" insert "Cognitive Dissonance". Explains why she freaked out.
May 12th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Not all foreign restaurants are good either!
Pankaj says: "And people think 3rd world women (the professor is probably from India judging by her name) are better than American women, implying that they are less misandric"
Bhanu Prasad Says: Other day I was browsing through a social networking site, and I found a community called "Feminism Without Borders". In fact it is misandry that has no borders.
PK responds: There are feminists in every culture including Eastern Europe. The difference, however, is that feminists in these cultures are regarded as oddities almost like Jerry Springer guests while here they are given professorships and are role models for young career women.
I remember a graduation party in Krakow where a Polish career woman, who spoke very good English, went on and on with the typical feminist speil and then it was revealed: She had traveled to the states and had an American boyfriend (can't say I blame him, she was quite attractive by American standards.) The Polish men (and women) on the other hand, were listening to her speak if only for drunken amusement value.
Additionally, it's important to remember that other cultures have almost entirely different values systems. We have a warped view of chivalry here while these cultures don't have chivalry at all and this means sometimes a ruthless materialism and survival instinct. That said, though, at least their systems make SENSE!
May 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Tim Murray says: "Aside from all that, guys, have a great college career."
PK adds: You almost forgot, Tim, that young men will commonly see many young women become ultra-chivalry entitlement princesses and tramps. Surrounded by several thousands of young, horny men AND away from their parent's supervision, many like Jeana will go to drunken frat parties that allow them to casually engage in underage drinking. Even with so many women sleeping around with dozens of men per month, there will be tons of beta males available to step in and indulge these women's entitlement attitudes.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Once again these valiant feminists (including the professor who was made "sick" by Lawrence Summers observations about women in science) prove how tough, capable, and equal they are, and how sound their "academic" credentials are.
You go, girls! No. Really.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
jorge
"The colleges are rife with misanadry. Sexual harassment poster decorate every hall. Sexual assault pamphlets regularly handed out. Anti-male vitriol is standard operating procedure by the feminist controlled universities. The message is clear "men are not welcome here." Those that are either naive or brave enough to enrolled are subject to poor treatment, and an atmosphere that treats them as potential predators and abusers.
Little if any help will be offered to these male students, such as how to fill out fafsa, how to do this and that. They are on their own, unless they "ask" the right questions no information will ever be volunteered to them.
All the while for the female students faculty and staff trip over themselves to assist each and ever female student. Wonder why men don't attend college?"
MCA, that about sums it up!!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Alex said:
"I think what this case shows is just how much of a house of cards radical feminist ideology (and similar radical ideologies) really are. It's ironic, really: these people profess so much belief in their beliefs, almost like a religion. They live, breath, sleep, and die believing that their extremist views are the absolute, God's-honest way the world works. Yet once someone, ANYONE, gathers up the guts to get past the PC barrier surrounding the radical person and their equally radical beliefs and actually challenge them rationally, those same religiously followed and believed viewpoints prove to be so totally fragile. At the intellectual level, it's almost like a giant, grand statue of a Greek god that crumbles into dust at the slightest poke of the finger. Like I said, it's ironic, and an interesting question: just how can people be led to believe so heavily in beliefs that are so intellectually fragile?"
As a fellow college student, I always appreciate your posts very much (so keep it up)! You and I seem to see firsthand what goes on in universities today. I am thankful I had the courage to specialize in men's psychology (area 51 APA) even under such a strong gender-feminist environment.
As for the quote above, I am reminded of "terror management theory", a new branch of social psychology, that posits that defensiveness of such ideologies may be related to mortality fears. For example, research has shown that when "death salience" is primed in a subject (such as by writing one's own sample orbituary), anxiety related to death can lead to wall building and self-protection of our own unique comfort zones. The idea is that we all have our own version of truth, and when that sense of meaning is threatened, our sense of security decreases resulting in prejudice or intolerance of others. It is a VERY intersting branch of psychology to say the least. It seems to be related to existentialist philosophy, phenomenology (subjective truth), and Freudian psychoanalyses.
Take care,
MXY
May 12th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
The King of K Says: May 12th, 2008 at 11:45 am
"I was unaware the problem had spread to India."
"Before the five armed police burst through Abhishek Kumar's bedroom door in his Delhi [India] apartment last summer the software engineer had been prepared. His parents had been moved out and a bag of his was packed for prison. His crime, he explains, was a failed marriage."
"Kumar's wife, Pratibha, a lecturer at a local college, had made a complaint under India's dowry law. The offence would allow for arrest and jailing of him and his parents without investigation."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/13/india.randeepramesh1
"Dedicated to the Victimised Indian Families, Who are falsely threatened & Blackmailed by the Indian Daughters-In-Law & her family members, and those Victimised families who are already falsely charged under the Section 498A. Its all about False charges of Dowry Law, Domestic Violence, Alimony, Marriage and Divorce."
http://indianhusbands.blogspot.com/2005/08/section-498a-indian-mens-attitude.html
India is also a matriarchy.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
The height of evil Feminists, can not win any arguments by logic even as they are given full time jobs to draft one sided arguments( or lose the job for saving truth) , whereas the opponents somehow find time for understanding the truth, they just want to file cases using absurd one sideed LAws.
Can someone save humanity from radical feminists.
Sandeep ( India )
( President )
http://www.ghrs.in
May 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Thanks the college boys for taking up the fight againsts feminists who want to harm any Good women who want to have good relations with any man.
New Laws like ( Domestic Violence ) in India is frequently used to throw old people out of own houses by daughter-in-laws.
Shame on such senseless LAws.
No one is helpiung these old couples, the best advise old lady is getting is file a case agains some male member ( her husband or son, to get a canse to bear the torture of daughterin law at 80 years of age )
May 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
And that is, I believe, the fundamental concept behind cognitive dissonance.
One will fight for what they know not to be true just because the belief keeps them secure in their own sense of the world. On top of that, there might be external factors which require the belief (job, spouse, access to children, etc.). In the face of overwhelming loss as a consequence of changing one's beliefs, that person will scramble for any justification of that belief, no matter how inconsequential or incorrect.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I have something else to add to Tim's post to college bound fellas. All four years I was in college (03-07), there was an annual event called the "Women's meet and eat". The point of the whole event was to allow students and faculty to meet each other over a free meal. The idea was to allow them to form sisterly bonds with people they may not meet outside of their major or department, and certainly gave some students important connections for when it came time to look for work or graduate school.
There was absolutely no male equivalent to this. It was as if we did not desire friendships and professional acquaintances (or free food). It was a vapid and useless event that was nevertheless popular, and no one had a good answer for its existence or why there couldn't be one for men.
I also found it curious how the women's center would frequently remind the campus that their free massage service during finals was open to everyone. If that is the case, and the center was so eager to welcome men in, why must it be called the women's center still? I have no idea if the inside was in any way hostile; no sane minded guy was going to take a chance and walk in.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
This doesn't surprise me - some hectoring women will collapse like a bile-filled burst balloon when challenged and go to ground
May 12th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Lewis,
Danica ran over a crew member because he was not where he should have been, and she is certainly not the 1st driver (mostly men) who have hit, and in some cases even killed crew members, or have pulled away from a pit-stop, with fuel hoses intact, setting a significant portion of the pits on fire.
In short Lewis, this is the pinnacle of auto racing, and when safety margins are trimmed to the bone for time saving, sometimes stuff happens, that why even the pit members now wear Nomex and Helmets.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
To those of you who wonder why this happens at colleges and universities...As a veteran of too many search committees over the last three years in higher ed, the process goes something like this. Initial posting via venues like Chronicle of Higher Ed and like postings. Once the applicantion period is closed a committee reviews the submsions and whittles them down. Enter the role of the diversity officer/dean to assure that all protected groups are represented accordingly. A further whittling down, and a selection of those who will be interviewed. At this point, if there is not enough female candidates on the short list a group of academics, made up predominately by those in the social sciences, and organizations such as the Women's Resource Center send a scathing email to the search committee accusing them of discrimination and sexist oversight as evidenced by the lack of female candidates. Then a demand that the process be halted and begun anew. This process of bullying, and scathing emails will continue until there is a guarantee that a female is hired, or the process is restarted and specifically recruits more female candidates. It is a pleasure and a relief to see young men start to stand up, regrettably too many are justifiably afraid to do so out of a concern for their grade and being subjected to crass attacks and humiliation by the very professors and deans they rely upon for a just and fair education.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
taidan, excellent point. There are so many things like the women-only event you mentioned. Perhaps at one time when, for example, women were actually a minority, these things served a legitimate purpose. Now no one can say what legitimate purpose they serve and the sponsors invariably fall back on the "absense of historical opportunities" for women, or even mentioning the damned wage "gap"!
I can see it now, :taidan: the day the last male undergrad drops out, the college will proudly proclaim: "DIVERSITY ACHIEVED!"
May 12th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Agreed Tim. Another example of the same; my Computer Science dept. had a luncheon for women majors, which they wanted to increase the numbers of, as enrollment in CS among women is down everywhere. Only problem is that our dept. was tiny. My class graduated 3 guys and 2 girls, and the classes below me were just about even or were starting to have more women.
Suffice to say that the younger guys felt like chopped liver when they weren't being nearly as encouraged to succeed. And then when they struggled more with their work, frustration set in. I did my best to encourage them, and it greatly upset me; in my small graduating class of majors, the five of us were so close knit that male/female competition was never a thought in our minds.
In fact, I did a major research project on the decline of CS majors across the board. I wonder what would have happened if I pushed farther with it. I did some analysis based on gender, but it was from an angle of increasing enrollment among everyone, not merely women. Perhaps it would have met with opposition if had I tried to get it published. I know that in regards to female majors, one of my major points was simple; they excelled brilliantly in my tutoring classes when you showed them how their already strong skills easily applied to CS, rather than trying to treat them like a special case. Imagine that - people responding positively when you don't approach them as a victim of the system.
May 12th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
If all the students here sent out a linc to Glenn Sacks. com to their entire E-mail list, That would be a great help.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Well, it seems they are everywhere...how can we possibly have these women teaching our children? I homeschool...I won't tolerate such teachers, therefore, my child will not be subjected to them...
With that said, my 10yr old nephew was talking to his 13yr old sister yesterday and said..."well, my teacher said that boys are stupid because they fight with people one day and the next they are friends...like in wars..." I ALMOST LOST IT! I asked him, so did his sister, if the teacher indeed said BOYS WERE STUPID and he said, well, not the word stupid, but that's what she meant because she said that although girls hold grudges, boys flip flop too much between being angry and not being angry, and that it made no sense...and that it's usually the men that start the wars...
WOW! I of course, tried to keep my mouth shut since my sister works for the school district and believes that everything a teacher says is ok...but, oh my, this is a 10yr old...how dare these teachers do such things?
If any woman every said such ridiculous thing to my son, I would ensure he answered her right back...No thanks, I'll continue to homeschool him until he is old enough to not be swayed by crazy feminist teachers...
May 12th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
whatamess
If you wish well for your nephew, talk to your sister. Otherwise, he will grow up accepting and defending misandry.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
guys,
My religion professor portrays Hinduism as a religion that oppresses and demeans the female sex. Are there any sources that I may have of scriptures or other Hindu texts, that I may make up my own mind? Are there any Hindus here that can refute his claim?On another note:
One of my history professors portrayed men as historically lazy bafoons. He said that while women helped with male jobs on the Origon Trail, men did not reciprocate and do female jobs. He also says that women are still forced to do double duty today. Of course, he had no proof to back it up.
May 12th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Rondog,
I'm not a Hindu but you can find the English translations of some of the Veda's at the following website:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/
May 12th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Rondog,
Your religion professor is probably talking about recent and near history of India. Yes, the record of women's status in some parts of India is very bad (note: men are even worse off in these ultra poor areas). It is easy to see the behaviors and socio-economic policies to be anti-woman. You will have to consider them in a vacuum when you do this though - don't compare them with men's status.
As for the religion - there is no other culture that places more importance in women than the hindu culture. The religion actually has a temple of the VAGINA (yes the idol looks like a vagina or vulva if you want to be technical). The one source of all good is known as a female goddess - Shakti (translates to force) - (remember star wars - "may the force be with you" - that is an actual blessing to warriors and champions?)
There is also a belief that Shakti is the mother of all gods. The originator and creator of all life (even divine lives of gods). All high ranking gods have equally potent wives. (it is a very anthropomorphic theological perspective). I would not argue with the professor. It is obvious he has no clue of the power the religion invests in women. heck Even the phallic symbol worshipped as Shiva is surrounded by a yoni - Vagina - which means the most masculine imagery is not devoid of female representation. The male symbol does not exist by itself , but the female symbol may.
If anything, Hinduism has the largest female participation in the divine powers than any other religion - maybe even all religions put together.!
May 13th, 2008 at 4:46 am
----"Kumar's wife, Pratibha, a lecturer at a local college, had made a complaint under India's dowry law. The offence would allow for arrest and jailing of him and his parents without investigation."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/13/india.randeepramesh1------
One of my relatives had a personal experience with this law. His wife accused him of dowry harassment, and filed for divorce alleging his impotency. The out of court settlement costed him about 1,2500 pounds.
The interesting part was she accused him of dowry harassment and impotency. Both of them turned out to be false, as he got married again and has a kid.
These Indian urban upper class educated females, on finding their husband to be of different personality, get irritated and decide to "punish" him by a false dowry case. These are not any different from the "liberated" western females.
Thanks to this, I pick up a 1km sprint, whenever my mother insists on my marriage.
Sometimes I find a lot of fun with fellow Indian Young men. They are too eager to get married, and ruin their lives by manipulative wives.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:55 am
-----My religion professor portrays Hinduism as a religion that oppresses and demeans the female sex----------
That's all huge hog-wash. Hinduism worships women. Even the all powerful god, responsible for all the creation, is a goddess. Named as Aadi Shakti(Ancient power).
May 13th, 2008 at 6:28 am
hmm I wonder if this crazzzzzzzzy woman lives in a bark hut with a water tank, walks everywhere, grows her own food, and dresses in a sheep skin from a sheep she killed herself, does not use electricity, does not have a car, never flies etc.....actions speak louder then words....I bet her actions/lifestyle do not match the rubbish she talks, it never does with her type.
As a greenpeace member of over 21 years I would not want to associate my self with a nasty common bully like her.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:38 am
Sandeep Bhartia Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Easy we must work together, I still think a great big strike is the way to go.All males around the world stay in bed shut down the whole thing.Think a Gandhi type of action.It can be done if the will power is there.
May 13th, 2008 at 7:10 am
I think the most important thing for men to do, single men, they must screen out the feminist type during the dating phase, it is very important they be left on the shelf, breed them out, why would any guy want that a life of hell errk!!! Men age like wine woman age like milk.....Think of the mutants in the will smith film I am legend - run!
I know it is a bit off topic I just want to get my ideas out there. If guys treat them like a deadly virus the problem will go away very fast. NEVER try to reason with one just treat her like a virus RUN!And warn other males.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Indeed. It is a dangerous sport. I just found it ironic that the same weekend her performance elevates my esteem of her she has a pit accident.
And by the by since mostly men are drivers of course they mostly have the accidents.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Congratulations to the young men who had the courage and self-respect to stand up for their principles (free-thought, academic integrity & truth). Courage can be found in military as well as academic conflicts. Kudos also to the parents of these young people who obviously taught their children how to think for themselves, as well as to never blindly accept so-called "knowledge" and to view all information critically and rationally. This should also be a wake-up call for parents to be aware of the "educators" who are "educating/mis-educating" our youth (primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels). We must teach our children to think and act responsibly;teach them how to find answers on their own, and to not always accept people and concepts on only face value (critical thinking/analysis). Equipping our children to become independent thinkers and responsible citizens has to be one of our highest priorities;consider the fate of our world if we fail in this duty...
May 13th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Interesting remark about the small number of men, white men at least, who attend college today. I witnessed a graduation this past weekend for advanced degrees at a small college here in Texas that I would guess consisted of almost entirely minorities and women. Out of several hundred graduates obtaining masters and doctoral degrees you could count on one hand the number of white males. They were outnumbered by 5 to one by asian men, even hispanic women outnumbered the white males in the group. Very surprising to say the least. Anyone know why?
May 13th, 2008 at 10:23 am
My guess is
Fewer men went in the first place. Fewer men stuck it through to end of undergrad. Fewer men went on to post grad.
I think because of a what-is-the-point attitude. Men can get sex without marriage and birth control reduces the chances of children -- that you wouldn't see even if you did get married and wouldn't be raising anyway given the likelihood of the way the probable divorce will turn out. Where is the return on investment?
Men traditionally worked to provide for wives and their children. These days it is very real possibility that the 'wife and kids' will be taken away leaving the burden but not the benefits. Why risk it? Why bother raising the stake it takes to even get in the game?
Just a guess.
May 13th, 2008 at 11:41 am
You have just summarized the end of the book "Sex and Culture" by J D Unwin (pub 1934, UK). Society rises, becomes powerful, becomes comfortable, women enjoy more comfort than men (nature of how it works), women demand "equal rights" without equal responsibility, sexual liberation of women, men no longer have to compete as hard to earn sex, men fall into a decline, society declines as it was built on the backs of men in the first place.
What is the point of working yourself to hardship in school and burdening yourself with massive student loans to become a "good provider" for a future family you will likely never have.. or at least never really enjoy? Once that option is dismissed, why bust your ass at all when you can get most of the things you desire (apartment, TV, video games, sex) with a 35-40k salary? The less you spend on women, the easier it becomes.
Men no longer have to work themselves to an early grave to earn sex, so they don't. Men adapting to the situation at hand is what's causing this society to decline.
It's happened before, it's happening now, and it will likely happen again. The key is accepting that society, like life, is a transitory state.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I knew someone in this crowd would get that. You might not believe the blank looks I get for saying that.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Fortis, pankaj, and Bhanu Prasad,
Thanks for your replies.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Female friend of mine: "Why are there so few men who are marriage material??!!??"
Answer: "Sluts. Why bust my ass becoming 'marriage material' when I can get sex without marriage?"
The look on her face..... priceless.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I'm always amused at the number of women who assume that they are marriage material.
I've had more than one divorced woman give me the 'priceless' look when I've asked what part she played in the break up of the marriage. It seems I was always the first one to ask.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Pankaj, you are right...although unfortuantely, my sister is "one of them"...My sister doesn't even allow her 16yr old son to talk to his father alone without her being present...Mind you, his father is a wonderful, hardworking man...who has never disrespected her, who has always provided for her and his family, etc...but she thinks women and moms have all the rights to make decisions and that men are not to be trusted with decisions...or even to talk to their children alone without her interference...sigh...
I'll see how I can word it...if I tell her that her son said this, she'll probably get on HIS case for saying such things to me or in public instead...she's done it already with her other son...very sad...
May 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Whatmess, I just had to respond to your last comment about the situation; strained relationship between your nephew and his mom (your sister) due to some bias against men.
You have my sympathies. It's just sad that some people in your family (your son and your nephew) are feeling the sting of male bias as they're growing. They don't deserve it.
May 14th, 2008 at 12:04 am
If that is the case, I don't blame her. I blame her husband (a LOT) and unfortunately her family for allowing her to get away with this attitude and still reproduce. Such people are the reason misandry is so common.
May 14th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Let the malodorous, brainwashed, childlike and, largely, very unintelligent individuals, of whom Ms. Priya Venkatesan is clearly the epitome, rant on.
Reality has always had, and will always continue to have, time as an eternally faithful ally in the long term.
And history has repeatedly demonstrated that, throughout the world and whatever the cause, time and time again, that extremism always ideologically gives birth to its own antithesis. And when that extremism becomes powerful and causes widespread human misery, which is undoubtedly the case with the women's movement as it has evolved over the past half century, that extremism inevitably destroys itself and ensures that its antithesis becomes its predestined living, breathing, working replacement in the real human world..
Let the like of Ms. Priya Venkatesan unconsciously reach out to below the surface of the putrid feminist bilge water in which she has been given a platform to force others to wallow alongside her, and let her remove the plugs from the hull of her own pirate ship. And there are many others who are also doing it. And take heart as it is eventually and inevitably sunk by their own hand.
Peter (UK).
May 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Q. Omowale Says:
May 13th, 2008 at 9:26 am
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Here, here!
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May 16th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Pete Says:
May 13th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Interesting remark about the small number of men, white men at least, who attend college today. I witnessed a graduation this past weekend for advanced degrees at a small college here in Texas that I would guess consisted of almost entirely minorities and women. Out of several hundred graduates obtaining masters and doctoral degrees you could count on one hand the number of white males. They were outnumbered by 5 to one by asian men, even hispanic women outnumbered the white males in the group. Very surprising to say the least. Anyone know why?
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The other problem is as I have mentioned here before is that there are so few scholarships for white men. Pay attention at the next graduation, especially highshool [btw I noticed this pattern in the 70's] there is all this stuff for women, minority women, minority men, and then when it come to something available for white men . . . all the others have a shot at it also. There is not that I know of or have witnessed scholarships that specifically target a white male. If I had the money I would like to create one and watch how many people tell me what or what I can or cannot do with my money. Anyone interested I will gladly take donations and in fact donate $100 of my own and make some sort of white male scholarship only.
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bernies blogs last updated 05/15/2008
December 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
"in part, that scientific advancements benefit the patriarchy but leave women out."
Unfortunately Ms. Venkatesan is correct.
"Ecofeminists argue that a strong parallel exists between the male oppression and subordination of women in families and society and the degradation of nature by similarly masculine attitudes and methods." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofeminism
And who else can we blame for this? The feminist movement has set us back a hundred years.