'Nobody will deal with violent couples, only men'
June 29th, 2009 by Glenn Sacks, MA for Fathers & Families
I recently attended the excellent Los Angeles domestic violence conference "From Ideology to Inclusion 2009: New Directions in Domestic Violence Research and Intervention."
The conference featured many domestic violence dissidents--researchers and clinicians who do not believe that the mainstream domestic violence establishment and its "men as perpetrators/women as victims" conceptual framework is properly serving those involved in family violence.
Sandra Stith, Ph.D. does couples counseling for couples who have experienced domestic violence. She says there's a "partner gap" in domestic violence treatment, because "nobody will deal with violent couples, only men."
She quotes a female client of hers who tried to get couples counseling for her and her husband. The woman explained:
There isn't hardly anyone that would take a violent couple...I've called and you just get "if he needs counseling called this number"... not even churches. There's nobody that wants to deal with violent couples. All they want to say is "well how soon do you want a divorce?" Well, I'd really like to try to work it out first.
To read all reports from the Conference, please click here.
From Ideology to Inclusion 2009 featured some of the world's leading experts on domestic violence, many of whom serve on the Editorial Board of the new peer-reviewed academic journal, Partner Abuse, published by Springer Publishing Company. The conference was presented by the California Alliance for Families & Children and co-sponsored by The Family Violence Treatment & Education Association. Some of you may remember that I also wrote extensively about the 2008 conference--to learn more, click here.
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June 29th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Situation is the same here in the UK - you only get perpetrator programmes - no solution ever recognise the reciprocal natire of so much domesitc violence.
And of course if there's nothing for couples then it goes without saying that there's absolutely no help out there for violent and abusive women. the feminists love to pretend male victims don't exist, so of course that means violent women do not exist either.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Even if they did have couples couseling, it would be done by feminists. Just like is currently the case with marriage counselors, who are almost always women or honorary women, and take the wife's side most of the time.
June 30th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Recently, I heard on the radio, the President Obama has now named a domestic violence czar who is responsible for overseeing dv perpetrated on women only! I don't know if this true.
June 30th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I can see this happening. My ex-husband and I tried counseling. Individual and couple. Since he was active duty we saw a counselor on post, with the rank of Major, a female. His drinking was one of our problems; the amount of time he spent drunk, the amount of money we couldn’t afford being spent on beer, how he acted while drunk, etc.
But in her mind, alcoholic = abuser. Period. End of discussion. Kept insisting that I was in denial. After a few sessions of this crap I finally told her “Lady, let me tell you something, if anyone, my husband included, ever laid a mean hand on me they would not be walking right now. I put up with a lot of things from him, but THAT ain’t one of them!” Then I stormed out and when I got home told him we would find a different counselor because right is right and wrong is wrong. I was not going to allow her to persecute him for something he didn’t even do. And even though the files were supposed to be confidential I did worry about his career being tarnished by her.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
I know what you mean,jeanB.Its exasperating how much the feminist-created DV industry so completely believes in the "man as abuser,woman as victim",that they will actually try to talk you into admitting having been abused when you havent..kind of like the way police interrogators coerce confessions from the innocent
July 1st, 2009 at 4:34 am
"There isn't hardly anyone that would take a violent couple...I've called and you just get "if he needs counseling called this number"... not even churches. "
I have written to many well known ministries and several Christian radio stations to alert them to the realities of domestic violence. Often, this is after hearing the typical 95% of all victims of domestic violence are women hog wash. I have given solid evidence that much of what they were saying were myths from sources who in reality want to destroy our families. I have seldom gotten a reply.
http://www.shatterdmen.com/RadioRejects.htm
http://shatterdmen.com/Moody.htm
I believe there are many Christian men who are abused but they have no place to go. I would love to be able to afford placing ads in many places to alert men and women that there is a place to go to get help from a real Biblical prospective. Although there are many "Christian" ministries that will help abused women, I contend that since they use the very same approach as do the gender feminist....it is NOT from a real....Christian prospective!
July 1st, 2009 at 8:03 pm
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