Summary of Research into DV Shelters in Germany Shows some Familiar Things
September 2nd, 2009 by Robert Franklin, Esq.Not long ago I posted this piece about a German professor's excoriation of that country's domestic violence shelter system (See, "German Prof. Nails DV Industry"). Much of what he said about the DV shelter industry in Germany closely matches what little we know about it in this country.
Among other things, Prof. Amendt referred to a study that was done by Dr. Peter Doge of DV shelters in the state of Thuringen in northern Germany. Although the study itself hasn't been translated into English, a short summary has been. Here are the salient findings of the study:
"Methodological Approach: In Thuringen (a federal state of Germany in the former GDR with 2.1 million inhabitants) there are 16 refuges for battered women. Our study is based on open interviews with the executives of these 16 shelters. Additionally we requested some data with a questionnaire: the number of women and children seeking help in 2007 and 2008; their socio-demographic characteristics; the duration of stay. The interviews were conducted by a female interviewer during July and August 2007. The study was conducted in behalf of the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health of Thuringen.
Main Results:
- The shelters' staff overwhelmingly conceptualized violence as "masculine violence." Thus there is a clear dichotomization between men as offenders and women as victims:
- Almost all interviewed executives of the refuges see themselves as "partisan," as women's advocates. Therefore, for them an integration of men in the process of developing strategies for solutions is undesirable. Systemic approaches are widely unknown;
- The staff does not regularly take part in supervision sessions. In general, the funds for staff training are very small; most of the staff training is organized and conducted by feminist organizations;
- There was no consistent method for documenting the cases of help-seeking women and there existed no unified statistical census in the shelters. Above all, no distinction was made between a single case and a person in the statistics;
- The help-seeking women in Thuringen often are socially underprivileged. Women with low degrees of education and unemployed women are overepresented in the sample of 2007 and 2008;
- The help-seeking women stay only for a short period of time in the refuge (approximately 50% for only one month); as estimated by the staff of the shelters, about 60% of help-seeking women are returning to their former partners after leaving the shelter."
If all that sounds familiar, it should. What little we know about what actually goes on inside DV shelters in the U.S. leads us to believe the same things.
Specifically, the DV industry in this country suffers from the same recording and reporting maladies that the German ones do. As the President's Office of Management and Budget reports, DV shelters in this country are "non-performing." That means they have established no criteria for success or progress and, in any event, don't report to the government that doles out hundreds of millions of dollars annually to them.
Also, it should come as no surprise that the executives who run the shelters fail to recognize the need, much less provide services for male victims of DV. That's the same as here.
Likewise, treatment of male or female perpetrators of DV is simply not part of the plan in the German shelters. The goal seems to be there as here, not to make abusers stop abusing, but to separate men and women.
The first part of the report summary makes it clear that DV is a relational problem between spouses/partners. It's not, as feminists in the DV industry have long claimed, a political phenomenon of a powerful member of the "patriarchy" asserting dominance over a submissive non-member. As such, the tendency to engage in violence can be dealt with therapeutically, whereas approaching DV as a perpetrator/victim phenomenon accomplishes nothing toward ending DV.
Again, we've heard this before. With luck we'll hear it a lot more as society throws off the shackles of DV mythology and starts to address its realities. We've known those realities for at least 34 years now. It's high time we started doing something about domestic violence that everyone claims to abhor but few in the industry seem to want to take a constructive approach to.


























September 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Did you ever have the feeling that the sexual grievance industry is akin to HAL, the evil computer in "2001: A Space Odyssey"? Its sole motivation is to perpetuate its own existence. Heaven forbid that we should ever tackle the underlying problems that lead to both male and female dv (aside from shaming boys with signs on buses) because that would put the sexual grievance industry out of business.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
So, 60% would rather go back to the man they ran away from after less than a month.
Either the man wasn't so bad or the shelters really suck.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
as women's advocates-That pretty much says it all.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Here it's the crack head girls that flood the violence shelters....hey, it's a free place to stay when you spent all you're money on drugs. And you can make a domestic violence accusation against anyone you want,.....
It doesn't have to be reported to the police
I t doesn't have to be confirmed....
..and in many cases,... it doesn't even have to be true!!
Folks, the people in the legislatures that are funding these operations have no clue of whats going on in them.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
lt stephens says
"So, 60% would rather go back to the man they ran away from after less than a month."
MCA says..they go back because chances are very high...there was no domestic violence..the couple probably just spent all their rent money feeding their crack habits...and he goes to live on the streets somewhere...and she gets a free place at the ????domestic violence shelter??
I aint kidding, i know some girls that do just that!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I think one of the strongest arguments for de-funding the DV industry is its demonstrated lack of results. If you want to do some digging locally, look into the Healthy People 2010 reports. In California, you'll probably find the relevant information under the MCAH section. They should show the target goals (e.g. X number of whatever against females over 12) and how they're doing. Usually, not so good.
The predictable response from the feminist agencies running the programs is that they need more money (they might also throw in some pro-forma "men experiencing DV are co-creaters of DV, and need more indoctrination" language, too, because one of the primary goals of Healthy People 2010 is to identify and eliminate disparities- like gender disparity in DV services). I challenge local politicians (as publically as possible) to explain why they want to give more money to an agency that has proven itself incompetent. If you pay a plumber to fix a leaky faucet, and after several decades of payment the leak has just gotten worse, at what point does one hire a different plumber?
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Oh come on, we all know that in every suburb 3/4 women are getting the tar slapped out of them every night by the patriarchy. Until the strong sensitive man steps in to save them. Because if it happens that way on the Lifetime movie network it must be just like real life.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
See, the sisterhood is not only delusional but global.
Global madness.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 am
It's not, as feminists in the DV industry have long claimed, a political phenomenon of a powerful member of the "patriarchy" asserting dominance over a submissive non-member.
Exactly, and the domestic violence classes reflect mentality...
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
If one was to study domestic violence..OUTSIDE THE GENDER FEMINIST MISINFORMATION CURTAIN, one would see most of the violence is coming from the matriarchal underclass.
Not all patriarchies are being broken equally!!