African-American Group Calls Out VAWA
October 13th, 2009 by Robert Franklin, Esq.These concerns are affirmed by constitutional law experts such as University of Vermont professor Cheryl Hanna who once wrote, "Evidentiary standards for proving abuse have been so relaxed that any man who stands accused is considered guilty."
Little-to-no evidence required for DV conviction. Check.
Under VAWA, the definition of domestic violence is so broad that almost any partner dispute or argument can be construed as abuse.
Virtually anything can qualify as DV, including asking your wife to stop spending so much and "angry stares." Check.
VAWA also funds states to institute so-called “mandatory arrest” laws that violate probable-cause protections. Despite a lack of evidence, the accused is arrested and the presumption of innocence removed.
Degradation of the presumption of innocence. Check.
Degradation of requirement of probable cause to arrest. Check.
Diminution of police discretion about arrest. Check.
"The VAWA law is destroying the African-American family and poses the biggest challenge to civil rights since the Jim Crow era," laments AAVR member Charles Pope. "VAWA was supposed to stop domestic violence, but what it’s really done is create victims of VAWA."
Family destruction. Check.
False allegations of domestic violence are often made to gain tactical advantage in custody and/or divorce proceedings, according to family lawyers.
Fraudulent allegations used to gain advantage in situations involving no DV. Check.
Yep, that about covers it. This article has it all and the organization it's about, the African-Americans for Reform of VAWA looks like one we should reach out to (Hudson Valley Press, 10/9/09). They obviously know what they're talking about, and anyone who's trying to bring some sense to our laws and public discourse about DV has got to be doing something right.
For decades now, we've been in thrall to a frankly incorrect notion of DV. The only thing it agrees with is feminist ideology which holds that only men perpetrate DV and only women are its victims. Not only that, DV is all about men keeping in "their place," according to this dogma. As virtually any sociologist will tell you, men and women commit DV about equally, with women being slightly more likely to intiate it.
It's not surprising, therefore, that people who have the feminist concept of DV are in no position to correct the behavior of abusers. The problem is a psychological one, overwhelmingly of those who have themselves been abused, usually as children. "Treating" it as a political problem is absurd and, needless to say, ineffective. The truth is, psycholgists know how to deal with most DV perpetrators. But as long as we turn the job over to people who have no understanding of the problem, we shouldn't be surprised when it doesn't get solved.
In the meantime, the orthodoxy that says that only men perpetrate DV and only women are victims, deprives the female half of the abuser population of services for perpetrators and the male half of the victim population of services for the abused.
No wonder the problem of DV just goes on and on.
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October 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
These concerns are affirmed by constitutional law experts such as University of Vermont professor Cheryl Hanna who once wrote, "Evidentiary standards for proving abuse have been so relaxed that any man who stands accused is considered guilty."
Duh... I've been complaining about this crap since 1999 geezzzzzzzzzzzzz
October 13th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
It's not surprising, therefore, that people who have the feminist concept of DV are in no position to correct the behavior of abusers.
That's because they don't really want it to go away. If male agaisnt female abuse goes away or even decreases significantly a lot of those directors, administrators, and other people will lose their cash flow, politicians would lose a source of brownig points, and once male against female abuse drops and there is still a large portion of female against male abuse left (of course those the suscribe to the feminist concept would probably try to say that "since women only fight in self defense of male against female violence drops then female against male violence will drop as well.") they won't know what to do.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Sorry, I don't believe em. I simply don't believe contemporary African American women HAVE EVER cared about the plight of their men, especially when they've been the most effective feminist, I've experienced, at single-handedly destroying the nuclear family.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Harvest Says: Sorry, I don't believe em.
I am of the same opinion Harvest I haven't notice any type of collective efforts from women's group concerning the plight of men and to hope otherwise would be ludicrous the sooner men realize that their on their own for their welfare then we will start to witness some form of a movement many of the men are still in a state of denial remember in the past if women would not have organize their movement they would still be baking pies and pregnant but its not to say that there are many women who do care and offer their support but its only a small minority God bless them
October 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
It's not just African Americans that are the victims of VAWA, it is all of America that cannot afford legal representation.
October 13th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
This would not be the first time that feminist policies and positions have caused backlash within the African American community. Much of the feminist position on rape is almost a direct affront to the historical reality of how white women used the claim of rape against black men and boys. That is a reality most feminists are completely willing to ignore. So it comes as no surprise that another feminist agenda-driven policy has a disproportionate impact on the black community.
Ironically, it may be the politics of this complaint that might bring some change to VAWA.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Site here
http://www.aavreform.org/
October 14th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I wonder if the president is aware of how this affects the African American population?
The president is an ideologue who will sell other black men down the river for a dollar and a smile?
The president is a hater who not only hates white men, but black men as well?
October 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Surely, you don't mean President "Put-Down Black Men on Fathers Day 1 and 2 cos' This is What Feminism Looks Like" Unredeemable?
October 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
If one was to do an academic study, 95% of all crack houses are apartments rented to a "matriarch", irrelevant of black, white, peurto rican.
October 14th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
"Mr. President, I expect you to keep your promise to veto any military authorization bill that wastes $100 billion of taxpayers' money on unnecessary F-35 jet engines."
I Co-Commission that "Academic" Study. I'd wager with menscollegeactivist.org.
October 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
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My Bad.
"If one was to do an academic study, 95% of all crack houses are apartments rented to a "matriarch", irrelevant of black, white, peurto rican."
I Co-Commission that "Academic" Study. I'd wager with menscollegeactivist.org
October 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
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"'I'm glad an increase to approx. 50 perc. of America isn't touching HARD DRUGS currently.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I never thought I could understand why marriage has been on the decline. As it is now, I do not think it would be wise to get into ANY relationship again until I am in my mid fifties when my child is grown.
1. No fault divorce (which would be ok if shared parenting existed)
2. 70% of divorce when children are involved is filed for by women...and 84% of the time
the woman is made the custodial parent.
3. The STANDARD ORDER where one parent is made to be a visitor to the children even
though they may live 10 minutes away.
4. The custodial parent gets the tax write off every year and the NON-Custodial parent
also has to provide the insurance and pay half the medical bills.
5, We would ask our children to CHOOSE between a mother or father when they turn 12.
6. TITLE-IV D...billions of FEDERAL dollars are spent each year to ensure that money is
tracked and collected. They even hunt down men in prison. THERE IS NO HELP
FINANCIALLY TO MAKE SURE A PARENT GETS TO SEE THAT CHILD. A parents
money is valued higher to a child than they are.
7. Due to the make up of the STANDARD ORDER I would get to see someone else's
children more than I get to see my own, and more than another father get to see his
children.
8. ABORTION- A woman has a way to obsolve herself of any responsibility and I have no
say so if I want the child. If you flip the script, I would not be able to obsolve myself
of financial responsibility if I chose to do so.
9. Restraining Orders that have no merit.
10. The hypocrisy of the system that says "IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD.
GIVEN THOSE FACTS I DO NOT SEE WHY ANY MAN WOULD WANT TO BE PART OF A SYSTEM LIKE OURS. I am not the smartest guy in the world, but I am not stupid either.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
If one was to do an academic study, 95% of all crack houses are apartments rented to a "matriarch", irrelevant of black, white, peurto rican.
I will go further here, crack houses continue unabated when the males are arrested. The crack houses only get shut down when the "matriarch" of the apartment gets shut down. When crack houses are allowed to flourish, crime also flourishes.
So the bottom line here folks, if society starts to hold women equally accountable, the crack houses will start being permanently shut down, and the crime related to the crack house environment will also shut down also.
When law enforcement arrest just males...they do very little for cause of stopping crack houses. Stop the matriarch, and you have stopped a crack house.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
"When law enforcement arrest just males...they do very little for cause of stopping crack houses. Stop the matriarch, and you have stopped a crack house."
It's the same with yellow-jacket wasps. You can trap all the workers you want, but more will just fill in. You have to go after the martiarch if you want to get rid of the wasps' nest.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:14 am
You can't truly support VAWA or our DV coalitions unless you are either very ignorant or very evil. No other options about it.
How to tell the difference between the ignorant and the evil? Those deeply involved in fighting DV can't miss it, all the double standards, lies, contradictions and abuse stemming form ALL of our DV coalitions - no exceptions. If they are still in it, still supporting it once they are this deep, they are truly evil, no bones about it.
Also, beware that some shelters and DV coalitions claim to fight DV equally for both genders or say that men are victims too, or that anyone can be a victim... Don't fall for this diversion, deception, lie. Since they still adhere to abusive, deceptive VAWA and NOW standards of abuse these hollow claims are a sure signs that they have addopted a very stealthy and even more abusive anti-male programs, attacking children viciously too, more than before.
We' seen it, witnessed these "changes," and the abuse that still accompanies ALL of these organizations. Spread the word to ignorant fathers advocates who seem to rejoice that we are making inroads when they hear or see this abusive, deceptive trash. Ask these agencies the actual stats on abuse between genders, if they stall on stats, then just ask them who commits most abuse, and then ask by how much - uncovered...
This is much like CPS saying their goal is to reunite families - yeah right - nice diversion to get away with more abuse than before...
October 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE+ VAWA= ANOTHER PROBLEM TO THE SOLUTION
October 16th, 2009 at 12:12 am
There actually is money that goes to every state for men's issues - for abused men and for visitation enforcement, etc. But, guess who gets it since they help everyone - you local anti-male shelters who lie through their teeth and abuse...
One of the guys who is very active on our own "Capital" Hill here in Utah tracked those funds down, being used to assure fathers and their children are abused more and do not get to see each other. Trying to do something about it is a joke and a half. Utah is among the 26 most hostile states towards dads and their children. We're just going to have to go on a slave strike until human rights are granted to every man and child.