We're Shocked! Keanu Reeves Is Not the Dad
October 15th, 2009 by Robert Franklin, Esq."I'm pissed. I just want him to stand up and be a man," Sala said in an interview yesterday.
"This is not about revenge or an attack on his good character," she said outside the courthouse on Monday. "It's about closure and getting some peace. This is a personal journey."
“The truth is a strange thing, and sometimes no one’s prepared for it. And it will come out. You have to have faith.”
Those are all quotations from Karen Sala over the past five months. She's the 46-year-old Ontario woman who's claimed, loudly and stridently, that Keanu Reeves is the father of some number of her four adult children. Reeves has always denied even knowing Sala much less ever having had sex with her.
But yesterday the DNA tests came back and Sala will not be getting the $3 million per month in spousal support she was asking for or the $150,000 per month in child support retroactive to 1988. Whether she'll be charged for her patently frivolous claims remains to be seen. Read about it here (TMZ, 10/14/09).
From the beginning, this looked like a bogus case. The mere fact that Sala couldn't find a lawyer to represent her should have tipped off most folks. After all, if you're a lawyer and you see any chance at all of getting a piece of almost $38 million in back child support, don't you give it a shot? And when Reeves denied even knowing her and called her claims "absurd" and "frivolous," no one should have been in doubt about the outcome.
But still, look at the quotations from Sala above. If you didn't know the facts surrounding this whole extremely odd situation, wouldn't they sound believable?
A final note to Sala: No, Karen, the truth is not so strange. The truth is that, when you don't have sex with someone, the children aren't his.
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October 15th, 2009 at 10:08 am
iirc, Canadian lawyers don't work on contingency.
October 15th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I always found the "stand up and be a man" sexist shaming ploy to be rather amusing when given a casual examination. Aren't the women who use such a ploy implying that women don't "stand up"?
I'm reminded of the admittantly cheesy scenes in Back to the Future where McFly is taunted by punks to do stupid things otherwise he's "chicken." Isn't someone whose easily taunted revealing that he's insecure? The very taunt "be a man" reveals that the woman making the taunt sees men as insecure and craving female validation.
That leads us to this particular case: Karan Sala has multiple children from different men that are so anonymous that she is making accusations against a total stranger. She apparently knows a lot about irresponsible men: She's fathered children for _4_ of them! Yet she continues to resort to this shaming ploy. It hasn't worked before yet she keeps trying it. Shouldn't she "woman up" and learn something by now?
October 15th, 2009 at 10:45 am
"Stand up and be a man! Just say you did it!" were the same words an angry polygraph shouted at my 16 year old son, falsely accused of rape.
He couldn't pass a polygraph saying he did it. Being accused is instant guilt, since children don't lie.
Passing polygraphs saying you didn't do it, and failing them when forced to 'admit' the crime never gave pause he might be telling the truth. It only meant he was 'in denial' and EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. The MOST DANGEROUS criminal he'd EVER SEEN I was told.
I was to hear that same shrill exhortation many, many times the next several years by his female 'therapists'.
No matter how 'man enough' he was to admit to the crime, somehow he was never 'man enough' to pass the polygraph confirming it.
"Step up to the plate! Just say you did it" was the another one...like it was a baseball game instead of his young life at stake.
Women are falsely accused from time to time. I don't wonder if they are told to "woman up' or "step up to the mirror", perhaps...
October 15th, 2009 at 10:51 am
But yesterday the DNA tests came back and Sala will not be getting the $3 million per month in spousal support she was asking for or the $150,000 per month in child support retroactive to 1988.
What!?!?! Unless the children in question or the custodial parent him/herself has some condition or ailment that requires expensive care/treatment there is absolutely no justification for that much in monthly support. The majority of people don't make $150K a year so with the exception of what I just said I would say not just no but hell no to such a large amount. Sounds like that woman that has a child by Puff Daddy when she tried to raise his monthly payment to $20k a month. That's not child support that's baby mama support (unless the exception I mentioned above applies).
PK:
The very taunt "be a man" reveals that the woman making the taunt sees men as insecure and craving female validation.
And I'll wager that said woman herself is insecure so she tries to empower herself by trying to manipulate men with such taunting. The person that falls for the taunt may be insecure but the person doing the taunting isn't much better off.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I guess she should have picked a polititian instead. That way the guy would have paid her either way or suffer his career.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Danny, it's kind of funny that my wife sees the taunt of "be a man" in a completely different way than here. For her, "being a man" is a man telling a woman what he really thinks rather than sweetening it up.
There's a cover story today on cnn.com that women are less happy (a theme I've seen in something like 4 times here on this forum!) Perhaps the reason why so many women are miserable is precisely because they don't think they can trust the world and people around them?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:10 am
"From the beginning, this looked like a bogus case. " Yeah, but the results of the DNA tests were excellent!
Yes, I *have* been watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" lately.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:47 am
There's a cover story today on cnn.com that women are less happy (a theme I've seen in something like 4 times here on this forum!) Perhaps the reason why so many women are miserable is precisely because they don't think they can trust the world and people around them?
Mental illness causes unhappiness. It's quite simple.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
OMG, her word wasn't good enough. The DNA tests must have been tampered with.
This has to be a joke, are you telling me that he isn't the father, why would she lie, women don't lie.
My world has been destroyed, all I have left to have faith in is our government and judicial system.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
"The truth is that, when you don't have sex with someone, the children aren't his."
Actually, this isn't true. There are several cases of a lesbian spitting into a turkey baster and inseminating her partner- and holding the "father" liable for child support. Similar cases with condoms retrieved out of the trash, etc. Then there's the growing movement to hold "anonymous" sperm donors liable for child support in spite of agreements not to do so.
Of course, in each instance, the "father" is usually liable for support, because . . . all together now . . . it's in the BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Their needs to be a national registry for women who make false claims of paternity, rape and abuse to be put on. And they can name it after this woman.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
@Robert...
The truth is that, when you don't have sex with someone, the children aren't his.
Now, Robert, you know that isn't necessarily true. There are ways for women to bypass this requirement.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Not so lucky was a man who I spoke with from the Don Jail in Toronto. Jailed for non payment of child support on a child that is not even his. He never had sex with her, never even had a relationship with this legal secretary. But!!! The Ontario Legal System has a way of awarding CS to women against men for children that are not even theirs simply on the hearsay of a female. I believe he simply drove her in his cab.
The man I am talking about, unable to speak English the best, was ruined to the point of pure poverty by a woman who had her sights set on this guy to rape him of his money.
Justice in Ontario at it's finest.
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Gwallan, you are right there actually are legal ways to bypass the requirement in Ontario. If you live with a woman who has a child from another man/marriage for a length of time and become the primary financial provider, you, the non biological parent are on the hook for CS as if the child was yours by birth. The way it was explained to me was; "If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then it is duck!" You pay, and pay and pay.
I have an auto mechanic friend of mine who was paying CS on a man? no a boy who is about 27 years old. He married this woman who brought with her a son, a true liability in marriage if and when the woman decides to leave. His wife divorced him and he settled the other week to buy her a condominium in order to keep his home that was free and clear.
What he doesn't know, and won't believe me is she can still come back seeking spousal support if she wants and probably would get it!
Attila
October 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
All a woman need s to do is shout out loud she is a victim and society comes running to her rescue.
Find out that she lied and made everything up and society loses interest.
October 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
While I agree 100% with your article, and wish Reeves the best, the better headline would have been,
"Whoa!, Keanu Reeves is not the dad"
October 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
I am glad I read posts like these. How anyone could ever wonder why I HAVE NO DESIRE to want to Marry again, have a women spend the night, or even go out with a women with children should understand. Our legal system is such hypocrisy. Our laws and application is the problem.
This woman certainly deserves to be prosecuted. I hope it happens !!!
October 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
"you, the non biological parent are on the hook for CS as if the child was yours by birth."
Like any of us needed another reason to not date single mothers.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
@Robert (and anybody else out there).
The lawyer didn't work on contingency or flat rate. In fact, Sala didn't even have an attorney. Goes to show you how worthwhile the case is when she can't find an attorney to touch it with a ten foot pole.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I don't understand the Canadian woman's strategy. All she had to do was put Keanu's name on the birth certificate as the father and if he couldn't be found then he was the father, by law. He didn't need to have ever met or had sex with the woman. The 'law' would simply force him to be the father, much as it forces fathers to pay child support on money they have not earned.
Again, where this class of 'law' holds sway is a place for men to stand up and claim their rights, at a minimum. Properly, they would also punish those who have instated and enforced such tyranny.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
What got me was when she accused him months ago it was splashed over the front page of the leftist rag of Reeves hometown the Toronto Star. Yet when he is exonerated nary a whisper from the bird cage liner.
October 15th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
After a claim like this she should be investigated to see if she is competent to be a parent to her children. People who commit the crime of fraud do not make good parents.
October 15th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
That's not quite true, Badger. This did run this story here: http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/710511--test-shows-keanu-isn-t-the-father-lawyer-says . Granted, it's not a very long story and doesn't castigate her for her baseless claims.
October 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
The reason the main stream media is silent...is known as the phenomena of "The media Lace curtain".
What is the "Media Lace curtain?? " I believe Dr warren Farrel coined the term in the mid 80's. Here is the gist.
"Our hypothesis is that worthy victims will be featured prominently and dramatically, that they will be humanized, and that their victimization will receive the detail and context in story construction that will generate reader interest and sympathetic emotions. In contrast, unworthy victims will merit only slight detail, minimal humanization, and little context that will excite and enrage."
—E. S. Herman and N. Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent:1
October 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Whoever invented DNA testing should be given a Nobel Prize.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:03 am
I think I read that her kids are all grown up, I think the youngest in their mid 20s, I ask this.
WHY aren't they suing him for millions, after all the CS belongs to them not her
October 16th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Why is this woman not in prison?
Does she just get a free shot to put this guy through hell and try to extort 3 million from him and it's all perfectly legal?
This stuff makes me sick.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Janet Fellows asked:
"WHY aren't they (kids) suing him for millions, after all the CS belongs to them not her?"
Because CS is really disguised spousal support (extortion in most cases such as this one) that is guaranteed $$$ for as long as the "kids (adults)" are in her care. I would personally have a very difficult time spending $150,000 per month on 4 children. What exactly could one buy for a child every month, a house or a Ferrari? By the time I was 14 years old my parents didn’t need to buy me anything. I earned it. When I was 13 years old, in the late 70's, I ran a Gulf gas station on the corner of Richmond and Jarvis in Toronto that only gas station that was open on Sundays by myself. Sala’s kids are an embarrassment if they need to depend on another man to provide for them when they are in their plus 20's!
There are families of up to ten that live on less than $150,000 per year!!! I believe if the recipient females (and the rare male) of CS was made to account for spending the money, then you would see a huge change. Why not set up a separate bank account to put CS money into. An account the father could monitor to ensure the money is appropriated for the benefit of the children and not the woman.
This is not about the kids, that is, adult children! It’s ALL about her and her greed for money. Simply a sybarite sycophant sicko! A scam artist! She should end up on a scam registry.
Given Sala has lost this case and is found to be a fraud, I trust the court will make her pay ALL the court costs, including the DNA testing. Moreover, giving her serious jail time to send a sharp concise message to other gold digging women to NEVER try this kind of vexatious frivolous legal manoeuvring that seriously harms others!
Attila
October 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I found this poem written by Foraheartofgold a father of two boys that I wanted to share as I found it to be very moving. This is what many loving fathers are reduced to, not by their choice.
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Candies and Toys
I am a Father, displaced from his Boys,
Christmas for them will be candies and toys.
As I have been taken, out of their life,
By the women I loved and once called my Wife.
Since courts have granted, her sole custody,
She thinks its okay, to walk over me.
Kids are too young, to understand the way,
Court orders can keep, their Father away.
If not for the cash, she gets for support,
The custody issue would not go to court.
If it should happen, support I can’t pay,
F R O will take, my license away.
Not only that, but to show they won’t fail,
I’ll loose my passport and get sent to jail.
Liberals have sold rights of Fathers it seems,
In place of votes from feminist extremes.
A ‘Deadbeat Dad’ is the phrase that they use,
But no words describe the kind of abuse...
Abuse that is spawned, by vengeance and blame,
And treats our children, like pawns in a game.
Social injustice! The extremists all shrill,
Get rid of the Father and send him the bill.
Guard us from ‘violence’ the same women say,
Give us a shelter... keep all men away.
They’re using a system designed to protect,
For personal gains on a husband reject.
We want to be equal, that’s only fair,
As for the kids, we’re not willing to share.
Don’t question our motive, or ask us why,
If the kids should ask, we’ll just have to lie.
Where is our Dad and why doesn’t he come?
Oh I don’t know son, he’s out having fun.
But doesn’t he know that we miss him much?
He doesn’t care, or he would keep in touch.
I’ll buy you some toys and help you feel glad,
Spend Christmas with me... forget about Dad.
How will these boys learn to father their own,
When far from their Dads these children have grown.
I hope and I pray, as the kids get older,
They’re own will survive this weight they now shoulder.
If you should think this matter’s no bother,
How would you feel if he married your daughter?
Now Christmas for me, is spent all alone,
My story though sad, I wrote as a poem.
As for the kids, my two sweet little boys,
Christmas for them will be Candies and Toys.
To B.P. from C.A
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Attila
October 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Gwallan, you are right there actually are legal ways to bypass the requirement in Ontario. If you live with a woman who has a child from another man/marriage for a length of time and become the primary financial provider, you, the non biological parent are on the hook for CS as if the child was yours by birth. The way it was explained to me was; "If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then it is duck!" You pay, and pay and pay.
If I'm not mistaken doesn't that also apply in most of the US? I know there are stories of men whose wives had children by other men through adultery and by the time he found out the child was a year or two old and he was declared the father on paper and thus financially responsible for the child.
Its interesting that women, feminists, and the media want men to step up and be fathers but will support nonsensical laws that reward nefarious men by letting them run out on their kids, punish innocent men by pinning children on them that aren't theirs, and keeps children away from the men that are stepping up to be the fathers that they need.
But the breakdown of the (at least American anyway) family is all the fault of men according to Obama right?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Some women behave like coo coo birds with the exception they don't deposit their young in the family nest of others, rather they keep the young and force others to provide for them reaping the benefit of it all. Thus these women live like a princess while they control everything around themselves, that is the children the money and men. Isn't that what all selfish women aspire to?
I was trying to elude to the point that if a man starts dating a woman with children, he runs the risk of unknowing adopting the role of dad, which then turns into the reality of CS and SS when the woman decides to move onto her next victim. No you are not mistaken Danny, there are similar parallels of injustice in the US as well.
Attila
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Jdbar: Good pick up but not on the front page as I stated.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Yes, this is happening in Conway, AR – USA, as well as all over the rest of the United States with the exception of a few states that have a law against this. I have been duped and the weirdest part about it in this system is - the victim becomes the villain and the villain becomes the victim. It is my fault that I did not know she was pregnant from another man. How could I not want to be this innocents child’s father, after she has manipulated me into believing it is my child. Why would I not want to pay child support for a child that she then manipulates the child and convinced that it is my entire fault that I am not his father and that he should not want to be with me? I have been to court several times to prove/establish fraud and the system does not care and will not allow the evidence to be admitted. They don't care about justice. I know that her time is coming when the child will grow up and get to a point when the child then grown up will start questioning what happened and it will blow up in her face miserably. I would say she would pay the ultimate price of losing the child, but somehow I don’t think that will happen, since she is a sociopath and that will be blamed on someone else, me. At this point the child no long has a father, but may when he turns 18 and she is done collecting her fraud money. She gets paid fraud money every month for being able to deceive me. She has set up this child destined for failure and a life of destruction, but hey the courts say “It’s in the best interest of the child”.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The best interest of the child has nothing to do with it being Mother or Father. I do agree the court systems see that a bit differant. There are MANY cases that both parents are equally capable of being the primary caretaker. Thats where we as ADULTS have to "stand up" for our children. I have become aquanted with your site for a while, as I have a grandchild that has been drug around for 6 years because the courts deem her mother in her best interest. Well I would like to see what the court has to say now that the mother has deemed her best interest is 6 mos in one state and 6 mos in another. But that won't happen because she refuses to have it officially documented, BUT what father wouldnt do it knowing CPS does NOTHING in either state. And last year alone she was in 4 differant schools all while living with her mother. At least we will know 6 mos out of the year she is well cared for.